sk starting points

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're literally talking about AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CLASS at this point. That's how hard you're shifting the goalposts. And not just any class, the ONLY class in the game who gets little/no benefit from STR for loot purposes due to the weight limit.

We aren't talking about your twink Monk. We're talking specifically about an Iksar SK who will almost certainly never achieve endgame gear. Stay on topic. The fact is, even twinked, the Iksar SK benefits more from STR than INT. This is simply because STR is ALWAYS active and useful, both in and out of combat, while added INT is useful only in extremely rare edge case scenarios, where a tiny bit of extra mana makes the difference between life and death. This almost never happens, especially for experienced players who know how to avoid these type of situations.

Monks can carry weight over the Monk weight limit lol. I was at 100+ stone from coin and loot often on my monk. It is silly to try and argue players can't do this. I didn't have issues with being over the limit.

I have both practical experience and hard evidence to back up my claims, which are within the bounds of OP's question.

Please stop making up goal posts and then telling people they are moving them. It is sad.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone: STR on an Iksar SK who is not likely to get endgame gear is more useful than INT

DSM: My massively twinked Monk wearing near-BiS droppable gear gets one level per hour, therefore STR is irrelevant. Had cobalt bp/legs, a Narandi lance and a WESS and FB … so not a low plat alt.

lol wut

The goalposts are traveling into other dimensions at this point.

I had a level 55 ogre warrior in a group today ask for str because he was overweight with coin.

Just sayin’

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you know how dsm is, everyone is wrong, his way is the only way.
cant even have like a half normal conversation with him, i feel bad for him tbh.

This is simply not true, and a twisted vision of reality. You make things up about other people to troll/discredit them. Unfortunately you are so bad at doing this, nobody believes you. Most of the time people just ignore you lol. I always believe people can get better, so I am still holding out hope that you will stop acting like this one day.

In a factual conversation such as this one, there is an objective answer. Whoever posts the objective answer will be correct. I have no desire to be right, and everybody else to be wrong. I simply want to give people the objective answer, and counter bad information that causes confusion. If you can show that my information is bad, I will happily admit I am wrong. I have done so on plenty of occasions on these forums.

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I had a level 55 ogre warrior in a group today ask for str because he was overweight with coin.

Just sayin’

Being overweight happens, and STR buffs are great for that!

Originally Posted by abysalwhip2008 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes, im aware of the inate racial stat bonuses ogres and trolls have but Im a man of fun and lore and I really want to experience the green mist quest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP is clearly not worried about the +60 STR difference between Ogres and Iksars. Otherwise they would pick Ogre. OP will not miss the +20 STR worth of starting stats that they put into INT, as they are already missing +60 STR.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is simply not true, and a twisted vision of reality. You make things up about other people to troll/discredit them. Unfortunately you are so bad at doing this, nobody believes you. Most of the time people just ignore you lol. I always believe people can get better, so I am still holding out hope that you will stop acting like this one day.

In a factual conversation such as this one, there is an objective answer. Whoever posts the objective answer will be correct. I have no desire to be right, and everybody else to be wrong. I simply want to give people the objective answer, and counter bad information that causes confusion. If you can show that my information is bad, I will happily admit I am wrong. I have done so on plenty of occasions on these forums.



Being overweight happens, and STR buffs are great for that!



OP is clearly not worried about the +60 STR difference between Ogres and Iksars. Otherwise they would pick Ogre. OP will not miss the +20 STR worth of starting stats that they put into INT, as they are already missing +60 STR.

Nope it's true, no matter what anyone says they are wrong and you are right. It's sad really

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nope it's true, no matter what anyone says they are wrong and you are right. It's sad really

You can find examples of me admitting I am wrong. That includes this thread, where I admitted you were right!

https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...5&postcount=44

This is why you are bad at trolling. You make things up that are easy to disprove.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is simply not true, and a twisted vision of reality. You make things up about other people to troll/discredit them. Unfortunately you are so bad at doing this, nobody believes you. Most of the time people just ignore you lol. I always believe people can get better, so I am still holding out hope that you will stop acting like this one day.

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[Vexenu]

"I didn't have issues leveling my overweight Monk twinked with Fungi, IFS, 34% haste and other near-BiS droppables, therefore pump INT at creation on your Iksar SK." - DSM

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"I didn't have issues leveling my overweight Monk twinked with Fungi, IFS, 34% haste and other near-BiS droppables, therefore pump INT at creation on your Iksar SK." - DSM

I've leveled both a Monk and an SK. We are talking about how STR affects DPS, and both classes use STR in the same formula. You are delusional if you think there is no overlap.

I have provided evidence and practial experience. You have provided imaginary goal posts out out of pure desparation. Please quit while you are behind.

[Duik]

Can't ...... Be....... Wrong.
Unpossible.
INT.....
Edge Case Use.
Monk.... Overwieght..... IFS: Fungi: Haysssste: INT B4 STR on ALL CHARS.
New Meta.
Can't not be unwrong.
Goalposts. |-| Gooooooooaaaaaaaaalllllll!

[Toxigen]

lmao you guys are still going