student loans are a hit!

[Duik]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want to get into why criminals are criminals we can do that

Hint: Primarily raised by single mothers

Maybe this is true, as a statistic, but it is disingenuous to conclude "mothers should stay married NO MATTER THE SITUATION to save society from criminals".
These single mothers become single for MANY REASONS.
Arsehole fathers being arseholes cause some.
Cunty women being cunts also cause some.

Spouse death.

Just two people grow the fuck apart.
So, we maybe need to understand the why part of marriage breakdown. Can we agree on that?

What about lesbian parents, technically not single moms, any stats on gay couples making criminals?
I'd love some research on that.
But god, wont someone think of god!#! HashclaimationPoint (PatentPending)

[Origen]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Typical Betas with no T supporting child mutilation and unwilling to defend child innocence

Please elaborate on your love life, Elizondo

If you don't respond I assume you are single

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please elaborate on your love life, Elizondo

If you don't respond I assume you are single

You even post like a female using feminist shaming tactics. Pathetic.

We all know about your 'love life' and how you neglected your cancer stricken wife to post on elf forums all day

[Origen]

Haha, single and lonely confirmed. Have fun jacking off to porn, sadboy.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha, single and lonely confirmed. Have fun jacking off to porn, sadboy.

lol you post like an angry feminist

So Pathetic

[Origen]

My wife likes my feminist outlook, sorry you are bitter and alone though

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by Origen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My wife likes my feminist outlook

You post like a woman scorned and your low T Beta status confirmed

Pathetic

By the way, you ever get a job or are you still an unemployed loser?

[unsunghero]

The difference between American and Mexican heroes are what they are willing to sacrifice to try to keep their community safe

In America, it’s your job (for now)

In Mexico, it’s your life

[Ooloo]

Originally Posted by Duik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe this is true, as a statistic, but it is disingenuous to conclude "mothers should stay married NO MATTER THE SITUATION to save society from criminals".
These single mothers become single for MANY REASONS.
Arsehole fathers being arseholes cause some.
Cunty women being cunts also cause some.

Spouse death.

Just two people grow the fuck apart.
So, we maybe need to understand the why part of marriage breakdown. Can we agree on that?

What about lesbian parents, technically not single moms, any stats on gay couples making criminals?
I'd love some research on that.
But god, wont someone think of god!#! HashclaimationPoint (PatentPending)

Welfare and entitlements that incentivize single motherhood certainly don't help. Black families were far more likely to remain intact *before* the civil rights movement. Which is absolutely NOT an endorsement of jim crow laws, but rather a massive indictment of these programs. They had good intentions, but unfortunately they have drastically incentivized all the social conditions that lead to crime. And no this doesn't just apply to black families. There are far more fatherless white children today than there were in the first half of the 20th century as a result of those same incentives. And then there's modern social attitudes and religiosity but that's a separate issue that's much harder to quantify.

I don't know the stats on same-sex couples and child rearing, but I think it's reasonable to conclude that two fathers or two mothers will lack the inherent value of the opposite sex being present in raising the children. Whatever fathers are good at will be lacking in a lesbian couple's parenting, and whatever mothers are good at will be lacking in a gay couple's parenting.

Which isn't to say same sex couples can't raise good kids, I'm sure they can and do. But not every critique of it has to come from some hateful biggotted place.

[aussenseiter]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Welfare and entitlements that incentivize single motherhood certainly don't help. Black families were far more likely to remain intact *before* the civil rights movement. Which is absolutely NOT an endorsement of jim crow laws, but rather a massive indictment of these programs. They had good intentions, but unfortunately they have drastically incentivized all the social conditions that lead to crime. And no this doesn't just apply to black families. There are far more fatherless white children today than there were in the first half of the 20th century as a result of those same incentives. And then there's modern social attitudes and religiosity but that's a separate issue that's much harder to quantify.

I don't know the stats on same-sex couples and child rearing, but I think it's reasonable to conclude that two fathers or two mothers will lack the inherent value of the opposite sex being present in raising the children. Whatever fathers are good at will be lacking in a lesbian couple's parenting, and whatever mothers are good at will be lacking in a gay couple's parenting.

Which isn't to say same sex couples can't raise good kids, I'm sure they can and do. But not every critique of it has to come from some hateful biggotted place.

Civil rights or Great Society?