Nice France terrorist attack

[fash]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do Christians really pray to Jesus? I know Catholics seem pray to Mary and any of their patron saints, but thought Protestants just pray to God.

Yes, Christians pray to Jesus, because Jesus is god in the doctrine. The father, son (Jesus), and holy spirit are god. What you're probably missing is an understanding of the trinity doctrine. Regarding Catholics, when they pray to Mary/saints, it's to ask them to pray for them as I recall. Also, Catholics would say they worship only god. They don't worship saints, though they do hold veneration for them, and saints' pray skill is maxed, hence why Catholics ask saints to pray on their behalf. --ex-Catholic

[Saludeen]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, Christians pray to Jesus, because Jesus is god in the doctrine. The father, son (Jesus), and holy spirit are god. What you're probably missing is an understanding of the trinity doctrine. Regarding Catholics, when they pray to Mary/saints, it's to ask them to pray for them as I recall. Also, Catholics would say they worship only god. They don't worship saints, though they do hold veneration for them, and saints' pray skill is maxed, hence why Catholics ask saints to pray on their behalf. --ex-Catholic

Its true that they worship a white guy. Jesus didn't know the Hour according to the Bible (Matt 24:36). God is All-Knowing. So the claim that Jesus is God is a logical contradiction and idolatry, one of the worst sins.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
5:116 And God will say: "O Jesus, son of Mary, did you tell the people to take you and your mother as gods other than God?" He said: "Glory to you, I cannot say what I have no right of. If I had said it then You know it, You know what is in my self while I do not know what is in Your self. You are the Knower of the unseen."

5:117 "I only said to them what You commanded me to say, that you shall serve God my Lord and your Lord; and I was witness over them as long as I was with them, but when You terminated my life, You were watcher over them. You are witness over all things."

2:22 The One who made the land a habitat, and the sky a structure, and He sent down from the sky water with which He brought out fruit as a provision for you. So do not make any equals with God while you now know.

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Originally Posted by Saludeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I predict you're just trying to make a claim that "Islam is X" where X is anything negative. Islam teaches us to submit to God alone and do good, which is what Isa taught. Anything specific should be judged in light of that.

Maybe your interpretation of Islam is more accurate and less harmful then the majority of Muslims. However, when half of self-identifying Muslims in a country say suicide bombings are justifiable, that is empirically a problem demographic.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by fash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe your interpretation of Islam is more accurate and less harmful then the majority of Muslims. However, when half of self-identifying Muslims in a country say suicide bombings are justifiable, that is empirically a problem demographic.

Are you saying that suicide bombings are never justifiable?

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you saying that suicide bombings are never justifiable?

Are you saying droning the shit out of the backwoods savages who think this is justified is not justifiable? Well you are in luck I agree with you. We should have been focusing our efforts on race based bio weapons. YLYL.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

race based bio weapons

since there is no biological basis for race, that would be a neat trick.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

since there is no biological basis for race, that would be a neat trick.

Watson/Crick disagree. Also the following https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_bioweapon

"In 2005, the official view of the International Committee of the Red Cross was "The potential to target a particular ethnic group with a biological agent is probably not far off. These scenarios are not the product of the ICRC's imagination but have either occurred or been identified by countless independent and governmental experts."[5]

[Pokesan]

to be clear, you're advocating for certain races to be exterminated by a biological weapon?

[Nihilist_santa]

Biowarfare will be the next big thing. Its cheaper than nukes and doesnt dmg valuable infrastructure. You are fooling yourself if you think other countries and groups are not working on this. Do you think if ISIS had the ability to release one they would? Is a 100 year occupation humane? Generational holy wars and feuds?

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Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you saying that suicide bombings are never justifiable?

I'm saying if a culture has a history of wantonly bombing you and outwardly justifies it, a prudent person doesn't welcome them with open arms. Self-preservation is a great thing.