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Old 02-23-2015, 08:11 AM
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Look at this from our perspective. Nilbog and I have spent a tremendous amount of our free time over the last 5 years to build and provide this server (With the help of many other developers and CSR's) without any monetary gain ourselves. It can't be said enough that donations go to the upkeep of the servers and nothing else. This isn't something like twitch where your "donations" are literally going into the pocket of the streamer.

So to see people to making thousands of dollars selling off virtual items in a game we work hard to provide for nothing is one of the biggest disrespectful insults I've ever seen.

This isn't directed entirely at Stormfist's comment but just my thoughts in general about why we take the stance we do against RMT.
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Old 02-23-2015, 08:16 AM
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I would totally donate more if I thought the cash was going towards hookers and blow.
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Old 02-23-2015, 09:36 AM
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Look at this from our perspective. Nilbog and I have spent a tremendous amount of our free time over the last 5 years to build and provide this server (With the help of many other developers and CSR's) without any monetary gain ourselves. It can't be said enough that donations go to the upkeep of the servers and nothing else. This isn't something like twitch where your "donations" are literally going into the pocket of the streamer.

So to see people to making thousands of dollars selling off virtual items in a game we work hard to provide for nothing is one of the biggest disrespectful insults I've ever seen.

This isn't directed entirely at Stormfist's comment but just my thoughts in general about why we take the stance we do against RMT.
The free-market has a way of calling out this bluff.

The fact that RMTers will not stop is a signal that you should be co-opting it. There have been many who have spent exhaustive resources trying to fight the collective will of a group of people.

And while its noble, this 5 years you spent that you want absolutely no money for, will eventually turn into 10, 20 until you cant anymore. Thats when the loss actually hurts. And while you value your time so little, why the hell should anyone else value it otherwise. Think about it.

Sorry your'e offended. But i wouldn't suspect it to stop anytime soon. So carry that cross jesus! xD
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Old 02-23-2015, 09:39 AM
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The free-market has a way of calling out this bluff.

The fact that RMTers will not stop is a signal that you should be co-opting it.
What would you suggest? A subscription fee? Project 1999 Marketplace where people can legitimately RMT? No matter what it is, it all comes back to one huge obstacle: Legality. Especially with new owners of Everquest.
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Old 02-23-2015, 09:53 AM
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My comment was in jest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm an RMT scumbag and deserve to be banned. Step on my balls, tell me how dirty I am.

Basically:is this your server? If you answer no, respect the rules.

Someone do me an info gram!
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Old 02-23-2015, 10:00 AM
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The real reason Rogean doesn't want RMT is because he doesn't want people to spend their unemployment checks on pixels. It's not a wise investment for the government to give you money so you can purchase a level 52 epic druid.

Some would call him a visionary and noble and others would say "Don't Tread on Me."
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Old 02-23-2015, 11:12 AM
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What would you suggest? A subscription fee? Project 1999 Marketplace where people can legitimately RMT? No matter what it is, it all comes back to one huge obstacle: Legality. Especially with new owners of Everquest.
How is Lillu unimpeachable?

http://www.thehiddenforest.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=14

Obviously the "true to form" model here is mainly what you want since it is very popular. But one thing I will definitely suggest is addressing the "time" factor that most RMTers seem to be concerned with would definitely be a start in the right direction.

Lets face it, we played EQ when we were a little younger and probably had less bills than we have today. Why not deliver a product that will help fill that sunk time gap?

Just saying. There's money to be had. Creativity is just standing in the way to please a broader audience. And what better reason to do it for other than more resources?
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Old 02-23-2015, 11:15 AM
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I like how, in this scenario, the people watching you throw a tantrum over losing the pixels on an elf sim that you paid real money for are the children.
There's an old saying "if everyone is thinking the same thing then no one is thinking.."

You should probably stop using this old line. Wise up and realize that whether its pixels, a picasso, or fuckin printed-on green pieces of paper. Its the value ASSIGNED to the object.
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Old 02-23-2015, 11:16 AM
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How is Lillu unimpeachable?

http://www.thehiddenforest.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=14

Obviously the "true to form" model here is mainly what you want since it is very popular. But one thing I will definitely suggest is addressing the "time" factor that most RMTers seem to be concerned with would definitely be a start in the right direction.

Lets face it, we played EQ when we were a little younger and probably had less bills than we have today. Why not deliver a product that will help fill that sunk time gap?

Just saying. There's money to be had. Creativity is just standing in the way to please a broader audience. And what better reason to do it for other than more resources?
You have no idea what principles are do you? Its just about maximizing earnings potentials and expanding your market. What a hollow way to view the world. Pretty sad.
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