i dont always start threads, but when i do

[Quiet]

This whole thread is pointless.

Holocaust has taken or given anyone who wants it a chance. The loot is there for the taking and in Velious will be overwhelmingly available.

The idea holocaust isnt a pvp guild or good for pvp is absurd. The leaderboard shows holo is responsible for over 10,000 pvp instances. More then the next 2 guilds put together. 2x Azrael. Holocaust has 2000 more pvp kills then Azrael (yes many more deaths too but we arent a guild of rogues, wizards, shaman and enchanters set with intent to snipe a kill then bitch out and plug.)

Variance would be hilarious. At any given time there are 15-45 Holo members online and that number can hit 60 in less then 20 minutes of a batphone vs 3-7 Azrael with a total of 25 + 20 boxed. The idea they would be able to contest any any hour is a true testament to why Azrael has it wrong, and why they are on version 25.0

TLDR - Holo is getting it done better then Azrael, better then Nihilum. Server population tripled. Pvp is at an all time high.

[Kergan]

I wish I'd never done Velious, then it would be like a whole new game coming out. It's like if you could completely erase your memory of a good movie and enjoy it like the first time all over again.

[Nirgon]

To be fair I don't think anyone's ever done a 5 year+ Velious?

[MavstabYoudead]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To be fair I don't think anyone's ever done a 5 year+ Velious?

nor were they ever intended to. again it's a free server so can't complain for stagnant content.

[Kergan]

Yeah. I don't know if more than literally a dozen players on EQ Live were true BiS in Velious. Good luck being a fresh level 56 two years after Velious comes out, you're gonna get curbstomped.

[Deluxeee]

Quiet, you need to look up the difference between then and than.

[Quiet]

Originally Posted by Deluxeee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quiet, you need to look up the difference between then and than.

Typed from phone and did not proof read. :P

[Kergan]

I think a year or two into Velious the custom content discussion will begin. It's actually much easier to add custom shit because you're not trying to duplicate something from 10 year old website entries and vague memories.

[Bodybagger]

I can't wait to PVP with other newbs in the warrens, and chase people around on my mage with my monster summoning pets, because that shit is so classic it isn't even funny.

Most excited for new spells everyone gets I think... don't care much at all about top end game raid scene stuff *shrug*

[HippoNipple]

It makes for an interesting read to hear what other leaders and GMs think about the server. It makes me chuckle to see some angry people say this is what isn't allowing the server to flourish, etc.

The server has more people than it has for several years. This is due to Holocaust. GMs can try to take credit for telling some people that Holocaust exists but by saying that you basically admit Holocaust is your only recruitment tool for Red99. Without Holocaust Sirken wouldn't be able to get people to transfer over. GM events certainly aren't going to do it.

Now that Holocaust has provided this success outside people are trying to give advice on what Holocaust needs to do next. Don't worry about it. Sit back and do what you do and let the leaders of Holocaust continue to make this box a success.