The real story behind the Nihilum forced disbanding.

[Labanen]

Originally Posted by Eslade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I equate the increase in population to the decrease in gas prices.

I agree !

[dontbanpls]

Pikrib you contribute to <Fresh> being pushed back further and then talk shit about how we are taking too long to contest. You are the demon you hate.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Pikrib [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fresh won't compete Hippo. They won't ninja a few dragons or ever contest a named mob. They will take Holo scraps, and slowly leach members to Azrael or Holo. I would love to see different but it just aint gonna happen.

Log in, join up Fresh, and see for yourself. or don't and go back to posting what you think will happen from reading other peoples forum posts.

I would never join Fresh while Azrael is still around poaching all people that don't want to be in the number 1 guild.

I explained that a couple posts ago in one of my TLDRs.

There has never been an up and coming guild that didn't have their best players leached by Azrael and then wasted. As long as Azrael is around what you say is true. I don't believe the up and coming guilds have had a fair shot at contending with number 1 since Azrael has been around.

[gobletsmashing]

what happens when velious comes out? Everyone's gonna be preoccupied with velious armor / raids ... some of the old world / kunark stuff should open up. Only a couple hundred people on a time, can't camp everything.

[Nirgon]

-> start farming armor (read: plate) in tov
-> engage enemy force that zones in eventually
-> hour of chasing people around
-> one force wipes
-> LNS called
-> both sides rez dead
-> LNS expires after an hour
-> repeat from step 1



Glorious gameplay



We may need to address the raid force rules in PNP from RZ. The rule stating "you cannot engage a force unless you have something capable of also attacking the raid mob" became a MAJOR MAJOR issue on RZ. Basically it states you can say to the enemy force "you get a free shot" and if they can't take it, they gotta leave / can't disrupt your attempt... else a suspension for players involved.



Now... you might THINK you can defend this with pvp. But try dealing with randomly camped enchanters dispelling the Statue of Rallos Zek. You can't. 1 dispel, raid wipe. If you think getting pelled against VS is bad..

[Kergan]

Some serious thought needs to be given to how PVP rules will work in Velious or it's gonna be a shitshow. Faction burning, being able to walk up to most raid mobs due to faction, being able to bind in or just outside major raid zones, etc.

[Colgate]

it's okay

holocaust will just have 250+ people on each raid to compensate

[Pikrib]

Originally Posted by dontbanpls [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pikrib you contribute to <Fresh> being pushed back further and then talk shit about how we are taking too long to contest. You are the demon you hate.

I never said it was taking too long to contest? I know it is going to take them awhile to contest. How am I contributing to <Fresh> being pushed back. I wanted to help you guys out any way I could. I got booted for contesting Holocaust with some Azrael friends. I wasn't allowed to help Azrael. Max said "Pick a side" and booted me from Fresh. I had picked a side and it was <Fresh>. I even tried to help find your Azrael spies.

I did feel like I wasn't allowed to have friends in another guilds, and wasn't allowed to kill Holocaust even though they were attacking us at an epic mob raid.

I just think Max (I would guess aka dontbanpls) is in bed with Holocaust. He wouldn't go behind their backs and steal a dragon, or even try to steal a Trainx if it was contested. Fresh is being used to side with Holo already.

There will never be any mutually beneficial working agreements with Azrael and Fresh because Max hates them too much. The same goes for a lot of Azrael.

I wish the best for <Fresh> and if they ever need me you can always ask for my help. I also think they are doing awesome things for the server. Max and Karsten keep up the good work you guys are doing great. Just remember what happened to Gods Work when it was no longer needed to protect Holocaust.



Holy shit TLDR btw not gonna spell/gramar check that shit need to get back to work.

[Colgate]

our agreement with fresh is simply to ally in pvp against azrael to get azrael off the server

there is no official raiding together, no loot compromises

that doesn't mean i won't go help them CR when they wipe in hate, or we won't MQ some epics to them when we're overflowing(see: pulsing green stones when they came to VS)

the server is policing itself

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it's okay

holocaust will just have 250+ people on each raid to compensate

For some reason that scene in LOTR when Sauron comes out and is just cleaving people in two and smacking them 600 feet into the distance came to mind.