The Reptilian RL Iksar Thread!

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes via a natural process. a peptide that began to self-replicate and eventually mutated on its own. much like how rna messing up dna replication by not perfectly copying the dna strand and passing on the "error" copy that becomes the new cell is a huge driving factor in evolution.

randomness is fun to some, but no to some too

So would this happen in like a body of water, or what would be the best breeding ground?

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or you could deny that wind exists because you can't see wind. Just sayin.

you can, but i'm trying to get these folks to make better arguments and to explore the notions they believe. it's all nothing anyway, but can still be engaged.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So would this happen in like a body of water, or what would be the best breeding ground?

not an expert, so no certainty in any claim of environment in which dna developed.

[valarmorghulis]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

deoxyribose nucleic acid can come about because of chemical reactions

Actually no it cannot. It's actually a scientific fact that it cannot. See law of biogenesis and cell theory. All cells must come from previously existing cells and all cells are the base unit of structure of ALL living things. Since cells did not always exist and all cells must come from previously existing cells, it's a literal impossibility that the first cell was created through random chemical reactions. Science and an unlimited amount of evidence is on my side, not yours. Show me evidence to the contrary please? Show me random chemical reactions producing DNA? Oh right, you can't. Not looking to good for you bro...

there is not one bit of evidence that dictates that a complex strand of chemicals had to be designed and implemented into what we call life. your logic is, essentially, dna is complex, complex things can't come about without being designed by an intelligent source, therefore god exists because dna is complex. that's a poor syllogism.

No that's not my logic entirely. However the unimaginable complexity of DNA does suggest it was intelligently devised. What really puts the final nail in the coffin is the fact that DNA contains a language written with a 4 letter alphabet that utilizes chemicals arranged in extremely specific orders that provide the instructions and blue prints on how to build a living organism. A language can only be the product of an intelligent being.

“DNA is like a computer program but far, far more advanced than any software ever created.”


― Bill Gates, The Road Ahead

Saying that DNA formed on it's own from random chemical reactions is like saying that the code used to create EQ formed randomly on it's own. In other words, it's about as retarded as you can possibly get.

[Scrooge]

So it's ok to discuss a theory that maybe could be, based on your personal perception of reality, but it's not ok to discuss one (existence of Reptilian Humanoids for instance) you cannot accept no matter what? Is that what this is about?

I don't think I said anywhere in this thread, that I believe in Reptilian Humanoid existence 110%, and expect everyone else to also. I merely presented existing data, in order to discuss it with others. It has nothing to do with seeing only positive reactions, that's something you decided on your own.

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

or they did read and weren't convinced and offered counter evidence that generated a more solid argument for their point.

not to mention these controlling reptiles have gone from coming from the orion system to evolving on planet earth. your troll is tired.

I'll repeat what I've already mentioned, maybe you missed it, I did explain that there were various factions of Reptoids; to break it down for you, it means they have different origins. Just like not all people living today, are from one country. Any more troll statements?

Originally Posted by valarmorghulis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Saying that DNA formed on it's own from random chemical reactions is like saying that the code used to create EQ formed randomly on it's own. In other words, it's about as retarded as you can possibly get.

Bravo, I couldn't have said it better myself!

[valarmorghulis]

Originally Posted by Azure [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or programmed. But there are self programming systems am I right?

Wrong, there is no such thing as a self programming system lol. The fuck are you smoking dude? Because whatever it is, it's obviously destroying your brain cells.

What if most life is like this and couple that with panspermia - you have quick evolution to fill many niches if a bit of bacteria from somewhere else travels the vast distance across space to land on a dead but livable planet?

Um panspermia does nothing except move the goal post of the same exact question that needs to be answered.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by valarmorghulis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually no it cannot. It's actually a scientific fact that it cannot. See law of biogenesis and cell theory. All cells must come from previously existing cells and all cells are the base unit of structure of ALL living things. Since cells did not always exist and all cells must come from previously existing cells, it's a literal impossibility that the first cell was created through random chemical reactions. Science and an unlimited amount of evidence is on my side, not yours. Show me evidence to the contrary please? Show me random chemical reactions producing DNA? Oh right, you can't. Not looking to good for you bro...




No that's not my logic entirely. However the unimaginable complexity of DNA does suggest it was intelligently devised. What really puts the final nail in the coffin is the fact that DNA contains a language written with a 4 letter alphabet that utilizes chemicals arranged in extremely specific orders that provide the instructions and blue prints on how to build a living organism. A language can only be the product of an intelligent being.



Saying that DNA formed on it's own from random chemical reactions is like saying that the code used to create EQ formed randomly on it's own. In other words, it's about as retarded as you can possibly get.

here, read:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/

also, your attribution of dna being a language is merely a valuated metaphor used in order to help describe how dna works in layman's terms. the language used when talking about dna doesn't prove that it was created. the chemicals were labeled by humans in human made laboratories. they didn't look at it and it was all nicely labeled for them in whichever language they spoke. and why haven't you tried to counter my claim of the a priori model not allowing for the existence of god?

computer code isn't comparable to organic chemistry. cogito ergo sum failed you hard. it's okay though. your troll is tired too.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

here, read:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK6360/

also, your attribution of dna being a language is merely a valuated metaphor used in order to help describe how dna works in layman's terms. the language used when talking about dna doesn't prove that it was created. the chemicals were labeled by humans in human made laboratories. they didn't look at it and it was all nicely labeled for them in whichever language they spoke. and why haven't you tried to counter my claim of the a priori model not allowing for the existence of god?

computer code isn't comparable to organic chemistry. cogito ergo sum failed you hard. it's okay though. your troll is tired too.

Actually its close enough that scientists have devised a way to store computer information on blank DNA. Look it up. Its very interesting. And not a metaphor.

[Scrooge]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually its close enough that scientists have devised a way to store computer information on blank DNA. Look it up. Its very interesting. And not a metaphor.

The RFID chip implants they intend on injecting into everyone over the next year or so, are said to carry not simply electronic data, but DNA data in them!

So maybe that plan revealed in Susan Reed's book, isn't as simple as it was in written form, but it's definitely being carried out. There's no way to know, unless you're on the inside of the agenda yourself.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually its close enough that scientists have devised a way to store computer information on blank DNA. Look it up. Its very interesting. And not a metaphor.

yea, binary logical system says you can do that. not denying that it can be manipulated. denying that it was created by a supranatural being.