OFFICIAL PROPOSAL from FE/TMO

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Scoresby [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you being dense on purpose? Every guild gets the same amount of points, but not every guild will get kills to use up their points. it merely forces guilds to focus on targets that matter to them. You still would have to out compete everyone for the raid target, just can't exceed your point limit by killing any and everything. It's pretty darned simple.

The reward you get for being top tier is the best items, but the concession is the raid scene opens to a significantly larger playerbase....which was a requirement of the agreement to begin with.

So then half the people posting in this thread that think it is absurd and insulting that they should have to track and park, are still going to have to track and park. I don't see how that changes. And the top guilds are going to choose the same mobs all the time probably. We're going to end up with smaller guilds picking up scraps, not unlike this proposal.

[Seltius]

I think epics should come along with a height requirement

You must be this tall to turn in. Maybe put the turn in mob on a platform so anyone under a certain height cant reach it?

_
|
|
| 0
| \|/
| |
| /\
-

TOOO SHORT!

Really im joking! Seriously..

But am I? maybe short people should automatically get handed to them for being vertically challenged.

[Autotune]

I say just take the names of everyone here posting ways that they would try to skirt the new rules and then just ban them when they do anything remotely close to it, problem solved.

However, I'm sure they'd be more willing to fall in line with it than what they suggest they are doing. Please stop making up fake situations that the majority of the people aren't going to attempt. These mass amount of shady people you keep creating simply don't exist

[JayN]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I say just take the names of everyone here posting ways that they would try to skirt the new rules and then just ban them when they do anything remotely close to it, problem solved.

However, I'm sure they'd be more willing to fall in line with it than what they suggest they are doing. Please stop making up fake situations that the majority of the people aren't going to attempt. These mass amount of shady people you keep creating simply don't exist

Lets hope the really shady guys are not quite...

..
.

[Barkingturtle]

If we really want a revolution, everyone needs to stop logging in until staff can figure out how to implement repops.

Every solution we come up with is flawed because it's based on guilds and players instead of the one entity that doesn't scheme for every advantage -- mobs. You can't solve players, but you can solve mobs.

[DrKvothe]

Fast posting means lots of mistakes.

[Autotune]

I'll tell you what, give me a limited access GM account and I'll police 80% of the raids for Rogean/Sirken.

I have the free time again for the next few months, more than enough to get the new system rolling, and when I see it take place I'll forward it to Sirken.

After shady people like Happyfeet are banned on all his shady ass mains/alts, we can finally move forward with the non raid rule circumventing shitbags.

[Happyfeet]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll tell you what, give me a limited access GM account and I'll police 80% of the raids for Rogean/Sirken.

I have the free time again for the next few months, more than enough to get the new system rolling, and when I see it take place I'll forward it to Sirken.

After shady people like Happyfeet are banned on all his shady ass mains/alts, we can finally move forward with the non raid rule circumventing shitbags.

Wow, who have you become? I was giving a good example of how to get around that shitbag idea and you call me shady? Go back to RNF Stealin. It's a terrible plan with no way to implement it. Call me whatever you want, but I can read a bad idea when I see one paaaaaaal.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Happyfeet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow, who have you become? I was giving a good example of how to get around that shitbag idea and you call me shady? Go back to RNF Stealin. It's a terrible plan with no way to implement it. Call me whatever you want, but I can read a bad idea when I see one paaaaaaal.

That's exactly my point happyfeet. You aren't like that and you wouldn't stand for it even if you didn't agree with the system. The example you gave is easily defeated because people like you exist who wouldn't do something shady just because you don't agree with the new rules. I'm almost positive you'd test the new system and then try to change it or you might actually find that the a points system isn't actually that bad as long as it's weighted correctly.

[DrKvothe]

TMO's advantage with the point system is that it gets first choice on where to spend its points. If it wants mostly VP loot, it gets mostly VP loot. Azure Guard can't really make that decision. Thanks to competition.