ASOIAF / Game of Thrones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Grimjaw [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

they been playing game of thrones s1 this week every night on basic cable right before my nightly news. only saw a few scenes of it so far but most of them had some type of full nude girl on girl action. quite the interesting show. now I see why its so popular. has that topic been discussed already in this 300+ page thread?

not really, but i'd guess the reason for that is the basic cable version is the HBO version but with things cut or changed (similar to how Dexter was on CBS during the writers' strike)

I mean hell.. the very first episode includes a beheading, a dude bending his sister over and taking her from behind, and a 10 year old being pushed out a tower window and crippled. then just sprinkle curse words and tits everywhere, and you're done [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Sirken]

season 7 casting call - https://youtu.be/_zxJ_fjCVkE


so now I have to start guessing wtf they are going to do

[Uuruk]

Keep me posted

[AenorVZ]

Sounds like Brandon Stark, Ashara Dayne and Rhaegar. Is the door still open for the show to do R+L=D, B+A=J?

[AenorVZ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcU9aN5cu2w

Charlie breaking down season 7 plotlines.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by AenorVZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is the door still open for the show to do R+L=D, B+A=J?

heh no, the show has 100% closed the door on R+L=J, and since that was the question that GRRM asked D&D before he agreed to let them do the show, i have a hard time accepting it will be different in the books.

as for A+B=anything, when exactly would this have happened? Lyanna is "abducted" in or near 282AC and so Brandon (with his squire and a few other nerds) goes to King's Landing demanding that Rhaegar come out to die, but instead is arrested. Aerys summons the fathers of these men to Kings Landing to answer for their son's "crimes". Rickard (Brandon's father) goes to KL to get his son and is also arrested. Shortly after that, both men are killed by Aerys (with the help of fire and a choking device).

All we actually know for sure is that Ashara was in Harrenhal in 281AC and back in Starfall by the end of Robert's Rebellion in 283AC, where she "killed herself" after Eddard arrives with Dawn and news of Ser Arthur Dayne. And we are pretty sure that Ashara was Pregnant and either had the baby, or lost the baby near around the same time that Ned did this.

we also know that the taking of Gulltown was at or near the end of 282AC, and that the rebellion lasted about a year. Literally the only chance Ashara and Brandon had of hooking up within a time period to produce Jon or Dany would be for the few days that Brandon is in the black cells.

its actually much more likely that FAegon is Ashara's son than anything else. Dany was born on Dragonstone near the end of the war, Aerys' wife (Queen Rhaella) died giving birth to Dany, and shortly after a family friend helped them across the narrow sea to Essos. furthermore, I strongly believe that Septa Lemore could actually be Ashara Dayne, which would farther explain why shes in the Aegon camp should that be her son.

A+B could not have realistically happened in 282AC. and in my opinion R+L can only = J at this point.

[AenorVZ]

Awe come on you linked us the vids. Preston said that Brandon banging Ashara in a dungeon would be fitting since it echoes the Bael the Bard story. Ashara was handmaiden to the queen. Kings Landing was her place and her brother is Kingsguard and best friend to the prince. Can there be any doubt that she was influential enough to arrange a conjugal visit?

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by AenorVZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Awe come on you linked us the vids. Preston said that Brandon banging Ashara in a dungeon would be fitting since it echoes the Bael the Bard story. Ashara was handmaiden to the queen. Kings Landing was her place and her brother is Kingsguard and best friend to the prince. Can there be any doubt that she was influential enough to arrange a conjugal visit?

Preston is also strangely obsessed with the lemon tree outside the house with the red door, when GRRM has already said years ago that the plans for dany's backstory changed a bit between the first and second book.

some of his shit is just crazy tinfoil. but at least its fresh new exciting tinfoil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]



edit - also found a pretty good video on the hooded man of Winterfell - https://youtu.be/HwFNq7_8lWM

[AenorVZ]

Dude, Bravos is parallel to Castle Black. There are no lemon trees there. Sounds to me like GRRM was using misdirection [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by AenorVZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Dude, Bravos is parallel to Castle Black. There are no lemon trees there. Sounds to me like GRRM was using misdirection [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes, I understand very well what Bravos and Pentos are both like. what I'm telling you is that GRRM has admitted that his plans for her changed after the first book and while he was writing the second book. The entire reason he points out actual mistakes (and he has said this as well) is because as you mentioned, sometimes he does try to misdirect and play games with his readers. but certain things are just errors or changes, like Sandor's horse change sexes, or Sansa's eyes changing color, etc. Some stuff is just an error, and when that happens he corrects it purposely as to not take away from the mysteries that actually do exist in the world of ice and fire.