stop bringing up the founding fathers in gun arguments

[patriot1776]

I dont give a fuck abotu crime rates or statistics you arent getting our fucking guns you communists lol move north to that socialist shithole present british colony if you aint like it

[Resheph]

Originally Posted by Faron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lots of folks sure do think they know what I need. I'll be the judge of that, thanks. I don't need big brother or anyone else to tell me.

When what you claim to 'need' can easily kill someone with little to no training and, also, can easily kill someone not even related tot he incident at hand (AKA 'innocent bystander') then yes, Big Brother SHOULD have a say in the matter.

How many people have been killed in driveby shootings, mall-type killings, etc?
How many people have been killed by accidental shootings?
How many of those killings were by handguns?
How many people were killed killed in driveby knifings, mall-type knifings, etc?
How many people were killed by accidental stabbings?

This isn't even a numbers issue, it's a common sense issue. Guns should be allowed, but allowed in residences only. Handguns should be permitted, but with full registration and a legitimate reason. There is no legitimate for assault rifles to be carried outside a home, and the ONLY reason I'm willing to accept assault ownership AT ALL is because I'm a realist and understand that in a worst-case scenario, they may be needed to defend citizens from a corrupt government (or zombies, always think of the zombies).

[Resheph]

Originally Posted by patriot1776 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I dont give a fuck abotu crime rates or statistics you arent getting our fucking guns you communists lol move north to that socialist shithole present british colony if you aint like it

From what I've read in the past two weeks, you may find yourself eating your words. You have a President in his second term (therefore no reason to campaign for another one) and multiple mass shootings recently (2 in the past 3 weeks if I recall correctly).

And not everyone that is for gun control (read 'control', not 'elimination') is a communist. Your decision to use that as an attack shows ignorance.

[patriot1776]

taking the guns is step 1 of the Marxist playbook

[Lexical]

How the fuck is this stupid thread still alive?

[OforOppression]

i am ~really~ good at creating troll topics.

[patriot1776]

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[OforOppression]

Naez is literally Alex Jones

[Faron]

Originally Posted by Resheph [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When what you claim to 'need' can easily kill someone with little to no training and, also, can easily kill someone not even related tot he incident at hand (AKA 'innocent bystander') then yes, Big Brother SHOULD have a say in the matter.

No, actually. Myself, and the vast majority of us out there are responsible adults and responsible firearm users. We do not need big brother to reach any further into

How many people have been killed in driveby shootings, mall-type killings, etc?
How many people have been killed by accidental shootings?
How many of those killings were by handguns?
How many people were killed killed in driveby knifings, mall-type knifings, etc?
How many people were killed by accidental stabbings?

This isn't even a numbers issue, it's a common sense issue. Guns should be allowed, but allowed in residences only. Handguns should be permitted, but with full registration and a legitimate reason. There is no legitimate for assault rifles to be carried outside a home, and the ONLY reason I'm willing to accept assault ownership AT ALL is because I'm a realist and understand that in a worst-case scenario, they may be needed to defend citizens from a corrupt government (or zombies, always think of the zombies).[/QUOTE]

Tell me why you think that a law restricting gun ownership to the home is going to stop any criminal. You also just effectively banned hunting.

[Resheph]

Originally Posted by Faron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, actually. Myself, and the vast majority of us out there are responsible adults and responsible firearm users. We do not need big brother to reach any further into

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Tell me why you think that a law restricting gun ownership to the home is going to stop any criminal. You also just effectively banned hunting.

I agree that the responsible gun owners, whether I agree with their overzealous need for guns or not, will get the short end of the stick but the unfortunate fact is, you have to plan for stupid. You have to plan for the crazies who do things they shouldn't. In addition, you will never convince me a 'responsible gun owner' will carry anything larger than a handgun on their person outside of their own home.

Hunting and sport shooting are exceptions to this. By law, these activities have to take place in specifically designated areas, or unpopulated areas. You can carry a RPG into the woods and I wouldn't care, but if you carry one on your person in the city, you should be arrested on the spot. Same thing for anything larger than a handgun.

Personally, I think they need to cap the handgun size as well to make .45 and .50 caliber handguns illegal as well, but that's a hair I won't argue about splitting... it's a smaller issue in the overall scheme of things and not worth the hassle.