And I raaaaaan, I raaaan so far awaaaayyyy

[Calabee]

shit like this makes me happy i quit raiding on p99.
and whoever the fuck posted the cat punt, die [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Hasbinlulz]

Shut the fuck up Jimllizia Jones, and take your damned Kool Aid this time!

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly Players are the best police. Empower the players not some "force for good" who might be there one raid and not for the next 15, which forces us to compile evidence and go to trial court to play a game.

What exactly is preventing those same players from policing themselves at this very moment? The server having GMs and a rule set?

Each person in this thread could look beyond the rules that are in effect and reach out to each other and form a new code on top of the server rules, but it seems far too many enjoy the RnF drama to achieve anything without a babysitter.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What exactly is preventing those same players from policing themselves at this very moment? The server having GMs and a rule set?

Each person in this thread could look beyond the rules that are in effect and reach out to each other and form a new code on top of the server rules, but it seems far too many enjoy the RnF drama to achieve anything without a babysitter.

Basically, as long as GMs enable guilds to look to them to solve their problems, people will look to the "higher power" to solve their problems.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What exactly is preventing those same players from policing themselves at this very moment? The server having GMs and a rule set?

Each person in this thread could look beyond the rules that are in effect and reach out to each other and form a new code on top of the server rules, but it seems far too many enjoy the RnF drama to achieve anything without a babysitter.

Yep.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We never had a population problem on fennin ro. In fact we had to split multiple times.

People also had dozens of servers to choose from, all of which had the same content (save for the PvP and special rule set servers). P99blue has 1 server, which incorporates people from all over the Everquest spectrum, PvE, PvP, old school, new school, never before played. Not everyone played on Fennin Ro, while a lot of the old school TMO did, and apparently enjoyed the lack of rules. Other servers had many different methods of arbitrating raid disputes or barely had any due to player made rotations or calendars or common courtesy.

The lack of server choice for the same content (avoiding the blue/red distinction) means that people need to have some consensus on what rules to put in place. But the lack of civil discussion on the matter requires continual GM enforcement.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Basically, as long as GMs enable guilds to look to them to solve their problems, people will look to the "higher power" to solve their problems.

They look to GMs because no real attempt at a player made code of raid conduct can ever get off the ground due to RnF and trolls invading the conversation.

It is almost as if certain players want organized chaos, as long as it is in their favor.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Basically, as long as GMs enable guilds to look to them to solve their problems, people will look to the "higher power" to solve their problems.

This is just basic human nature.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They look to GMs because no real attempt at a player made code of raid conduct can ever get off the ground due to RnF and trolls invading the conversation.

It is almost as if certain players want organized chaos, as long as it is in their favor.

Saying RnF and trolls have somehow prevented guilds from cooperating is asinine and beneath you.

No guilds can come together because every guild wants to much for their share of the pie. Guild will play by the rules until someone gets upset and one guy decided to play by "server rules" for the betterment of the guild.

When a "higher power" is around people can always claim just playin by server rules. Without them the guilds need to enforce the rules. Members who break truces become liabilities and they are booted from those guilds.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Saying RnF and trolls have somehow prevented guilds from cooperating is asinine and beneath you.

No guilds can come together because every guild wants to much for their share of the pie. Guild will play by the rules until someone gets upset and one guy decided to play by "server rules" for the betterment of the guild.

When a "higher power" is around people can always claim just playin by server rules. Without them the guilds need to enforce the rules. Members who break truces become liabilities and they are booted from those guilds.

Hurts hearing the truth sometimes.