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Old 10-01-2025, 01:54 PM
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Can a BiS ranger solo Warlord Skarlorn in Sol B?

I was able to (albeit a close fight) with my non-BiS monk. I still think monk is leagues ahead of ranger in solo capability. Everywhere I have soloed on my ranger, I have soloed more effectively on a monk. Yes, the ranger doesn't have quite as good gear as the monk - but the ranger debate seems to point to requiring BiS gear to get to the same effectiveness as your average casual raiding monk.
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Old 10-01-2025, 02:02 PM
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Can a BiS ranger solo Warlord Skarlorn in Sol B?

I was able to (albeit a close fight) with my non-BiS monk. I still think monk is leagues ahead of ranger in solo capability. Everywhere I have soloed on my ranger, I have soloed more effectively on a monk. Yes, the ranger doesn't have quite as good gear as the monk - but the ranger debate seems to point to requiring BiS gear to get to the same effectiveness as your average casual raiding monk.
of course they are leagues ahead, thats why i prefer mitigation by dps. the defense/block on monk is significantly better at reducing dmg.
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Old 10-01-2025, 02:18 PM
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Can a BiS ranger solo Warlord Skarlorn in Sol B?

I was able to (albeit a close fight) with my non-BiS monk. I still think monk is leagues ahead of ranger in solo capability. Everywhere I have soloed on my ranger, I have soloed more effectively on a monk. Yes, the ranger doesn't have quite as good gear as the monk - but the ranger debate seems to point to requiring BiS gear to get to the same effectiveness as your average casual raiding monk.
A monk is going to get to these mobs and get them killed before the ranger can even set up a pull unless its outdoors.

lmk when a ranger solos something significant
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Old 10-01-2025, 02:24 PM
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A monk is going to get to these mobs and get them killed before the ranger can even set up a pull unless its outdoors.

lmk when a ranger solos something significant
This is what peak male performance looks like.

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Old 10-01-2025, 02:32 PM
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This is what peak male performance looks like.

He doesn't look BiS. But yea, human 4tw. Sad tho to see all that mana, rangers combat spells suck.
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Old 10-01-2025, 02:08 PM
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BIS ranger can solo King Tranix. Just hurts to think about getting BIS on a ranger and being outshined by EC tunnel monks (which I don't think is actually the case having a 60 monk with slightly better than EC gear, but it's uncomfortably close for the disparity in effort acquiring the gear).

I'm solidly in camp kill it faster. Proc reliance burns you too often and rangers recover quickly. I've only soloed 3 rangers to 60, so take that with a grain of salt.
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Old 10-01-2025, 02:24 PM
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Just hurts to think about getting BIS on a ranger and being outshined by EC tunnel monks (which I don't think is actually the case having a 60 monk with slightly better than EC gear, but it's uncomfortably close for the disparity in effort acquiring the gear).
Yah I sadly didn't realize this until I already spent a boatload of plat on a SEoC MQ. Rangers still very fun though. I think rangers really shine in places like KC where you can snipe nameds from unattended camps.
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Old 10-01-2025, 02:53 PM
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Yah I sadly didn't realize this until I already spent a boatload of plat on a SEoC MQ. Rangers still very fun though. I think rangers really shine in places like KC where you can snipe nameds from unattended camps.
It's a fun class, one of my favorites. Tanking is not it's forte tho no matter how you slice it. They can do fairly well dps wise with either top end 1h or cek sword which I prefer for A. Cheaper dkp B. Higher potential highs .
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Old 10-01-2025, 02:16 PM
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Mathematical summary:
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Even though you started with:
10% chance to Parry
10% chance to Riposte
10% chance to Dodge
10% chance to Block

Does NOT mean only 60% of hits will get through!!!

In reality:

In this example, for every time a mob attacks you there is:
10 % chance you Parry it
9 % chance you Riposte it
8.1 % chance you Dodge it
7.29 % chance you Block it

and a 65.61% chance the mob hits you

So Block has a 10% chance to work, but an effective use of 7.29% because of earlier defensive checks.
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Old 10-01-2025, 02:20 PM
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Mathematical summary:
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Even though you started with:
10% chance to Parry
10% chance to Riposte
10% chance to Dodge
10% chance to Block

Does NOT mean only 60% of hits will get through!!!

In reality:

In this example, for every time a mob attacks you there is:
10 % chance you Parry it
9 % chance you Riposte it
8.1 % chance you Dodge it
7.29 % chance you Block it

and a 65.61% chance the mob hits you

So Block has a 10% chance to work, but an effective use of 7.29% because of earlier defensive checks.
What is the context for this? As far as I know there are no classes in the game that get block and parry. It's one or the other. Parry or Block get checked first from my understanding, depending on which one you have.

You are correct that earlier checks make subsequent checks less likely, as they are checked in sequential order. That is why you generally see more Parries/Blocks than Dodges and Ripostes.
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