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Old 11-22-2024, 12:06 AM
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And thanks for sending me those parses, Troxx. They're really helpful for developing the methodology and coming up with the right hypotheses. I'll be able to get a parse for each side tonight to debug the methodology, but it'll probably take until this weekend to get enough data to share publicly.
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Old 11-22-2024, 01:28 AM
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And thanks for sending me those parses, Troxx. They're really helpful for developing the methodology and coming up with the right hypotheses. I'll be able to get a parse for each side tonight to debug the methodology, but it'll probably take until this weekend to get enough data to share publicly.
It would be great if you could share the mobs that were being parsed, and rough time estimates for the parse before you get into the details. Then I can start collecting data. I am not sure why Troxx can't do this himself.
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Old 11-22-2024, 01:38 AM
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It would be great if you could share the mobs that were being parsed, and rough time estimates for the parse before you get into the details. Then I can start collecting data. I am not sure why Troxx can't do this himself.
I believe he was fairly clear on this.

In before ohh woe Duik trolly troll troll. That above there is just factual facting at its factual facting best
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Old 11-22-2024, 01:49 AM
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I believe he was fairly clear on this.

In before ohh woe Duik trolly troll troll. That above there is just factual facting at its factual facting best
He was quite clear. I agree.

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You can beg me for my parses all you want. You can go get your own damn parses for all I care. Whether I post my parses or not ... whether you shit on them or not ... whether you care to believe them or whatever the heck you are inclined to believe ...none of it changes in game *reality*. Those with the tools and the experience know the truth.
He admitted to being unwilling and unable to change his mind no matter what. At least he is being honest as to why he is spamming this thread for 20+ pages. He is just acting like a child who is putting their fingers in their ears and yelling "I am not listening".
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Old 11-22-2024, 02:24 AM
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It would be great if you could share the mobs that were being parsed, and rough time estimates for the parse before you get into the details. Then I can start collecting data. I am not sure why Troxx can't do this himself.
I was looking at Rath Mtn hill giants, but turns out I can't kill them with 1hs/dw on my ranger, only 2h. I think I'll try logging some fights in Cazic Thule pyramid - it'll be more than half green, but it'll at least be a good dry run.
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Old 11-22-2024, 03:29 AM
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I was looking at Rath Mtn hill giants, but turns out I can't kill them with 1hs/dw on my ranger, only 2h. I think I'll try logging some fights in Cazic Thule pyramid - it'll be more than half green, but it'll at least be a good dry run.
I was asking about Troxx's parses he sent you. What mobs did he parse against, and what was the duration of the parses?
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Old 11-22-2024, 03:53 AM
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I love the eloquence with which posters here can explain the scientific method and reasoning. Having it used in the context of something I love makes me really happy and I hope improves my scientific literacy. Definitely Brown’s discussions of stats in the past have improved my understanding of statistics. You guys need to start a MSc program in EQ Analyses! I think I got a third in EQ back in the day at TheSteelWarrior Polytechnic College!
That makes me inordinately happy.

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Bcb do you mind if I borrow your data to make some frequency charts like a histogram or something?
For any data or analyses I publish here you are welcome to use for any further projects as you see fit.

I use the set of tools available on the linux command line for initial analysis. This is also available on macs. Windows you can install this, but you're on your own for the installation instructions. All these tools I use operate on a line-by-line basis. 'grep' filters out any line that does *not* match the pattern provided. I use 'awk' to filter out only the column of data I want; '{print $11}' means print only the 11th whitespace-separated column of data. 'sort' sorts all the data, and -n uses a numeric sort so 01 comes before 10. uniq -c takes sorted data and collapses multiple values by counting them. So if you have five hits in a row with the value of 11 damage (after being sorted), uniq -c outputs 5 11 as <count> <value>. `wc -l` is word-count; I use it to determine the total count after various filters.

You're welcome to use the data I've already provided as-is. The process I used to generate that data follows:
grep "You crush" mentrax| awk '{print $11}' | sort -n | wc -l ## count of total hits
grep "You crush" mentrax| awk '{print $11}' | sort -n | uniq -c | wc -l ## count of unique values of hits
grep "You crush" mentrax| awk '{print $11}' | sort -n | uniq -c ## the data I provided earlier; counts and values for all hits

The data analysis I provided earlier came from parses DSM generated and in any histogram he deserves credit before I do.
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Old 11-22-2024, 10:17 PM
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I was looking at Rath Mtn hill giants, but turns out I can't kill them with 1hs/dw on my ranger, only 2h. I think I'll try logging some fights in Cazic Thule pyramid - it'll be more than half green, but it'll at least be a good dry run.
A sidetrack but the trick to ranger on a budget is fearing as long as you can (WL tigeraptors near Skyshrine will take you to 49). Bow rot stuff after that or 45+ with a tolan bracer. HK is great with 2k hp blues.
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Old 11-23-2024, 02:32 PM
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A sidetrack but the trick to ranger on a budget is fearing as long as you can (WL tigeraptors near Skyshrine will take you to 49). Bow rot stuff after that or 45+ with a tolan bracer. HK is great with 2k hp blues.
I appreciate the suggestion, but I found fear kiting to be unbelieveably boring. I did that for a while in Iceclad. I don't play the ranger much, he's just a change of pace for when I get tired of my caster mains.
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Old 11-22-2024, 12:03 AM
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Another Troxx meltdown thread. How unfortunate.

At least he admitted to being closeminded this time:

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You can beg me for my parses all you want. You can go get your own damn parses for all I care. Whether I post my parses or not ... whether you shit on them or not ... whether you care to believe them or whatever the heck you are inclined to believe ...none of it changes in game *reality*. Those with the tools and the experience know the truth.
He will never listen to anybody, and every parse is wrong. But he will never tell us what a correct parse is either. He will stay in his safe space where he thinks he is always right.
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