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Old 10-30-2014, 03:41 PM
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Why do you need a punishment in place to stop?

Why can't you just stop?
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Old 10-30-2014, 03:54 PM
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Why do you need a punishment in place to stop?

Why can't you just stop?
Same reason TMO and IB CotH raced when Taken wasn't present in zone.

Because the other guy "Could do start doing it".

If they hate it so much, the guild leaders can make a post in the raid discussion forum to get rid of it.
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Old 10-30-2014, 04:01 PM
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Pretty easy for it to stop.

Just make a post in raid discussion forum:

Title="No more CotH ducking"

Contents="All members utilizing magicians CotHing will not Cast CotH and duck"

Leaders/Officers Post="BDA Signs", "Taken signs", "TMO signs, "IB signs"

Easy, done an an hour or two. Make it so.
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Old 10-30-2014, 04:05 PM
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Pretty easy for it to stop.

Just make a post in raid discussion forum:

Title="No more CotH ducking"

Contents="All members utilizing magicians CotHing will not Cast CotH and duck"

Leaders/Officers Post="BDA Signs", "Taken signs", "TMO signs, "IB signs"

Easy, done an an hour or two. Make it so.
What is to stop trackers from becoming Necro's with 5 coffins and Clerics grouped with a bard then ? Just keep a fresh corpse at the spawn with a rez box ? All the bard needs at that point is a trusty Reaper, idol and a quick click of his jboots. People will push these excesses if you don't put a system in place that is simple and easy to follow.

Edit: Yes I am aware I just told the entire server 1 thing faster than CotH ducking.
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Old 10-30-2014, 04:21 PM
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What is to stop trackers from becoming Necro's with 5 coffins and Clerics grouped with a bard then ? Just keep a fresh corpse at the spawn with a rez box ? All the bard needs at that point is a trusty Reaper, idol and a quick click of his jboots. People will push these excesses if you don't put a system in place that is simple and easy to follow.

Edit: Yes I am aware I just told the entire server 1 thing faster than CotH ducking.
we had the idea to res people in when people complained about mages

lol its all dumb

and ty for responding to my questions Lazie, you cleared up the VP race stuff I was wondering about

I am well aware Sirken already started R/C/FFA wont change. Is it that horrible to talk about how great a tweak to that system would benefit the raid scene for the server as a whole?

But I guess this will get spun into something that I am holding the server hostage til Taken gets their way

Maybe we can try racing next weekend ( not this weekend since shit will need to be planned ) and see what happens, what issues arise....

I would love for people to find pro-COH ducking stance from Taken, there is none.

it is also 'easier' to say 'WHY CANT YOU STOP DOING IT' than lecturing everyone who tracks to not do it or else bc guess what the fact is rustles TMO so much makes people who volunteer to track WANT TO DO IT MORE.

if we had to mage track Class R spawns and were competing versus only other R guilds, you would never see it done.
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Old 10-30-2014, 04:23 PM
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it is also 'easier' to say 'WHY CANT YOU STOP DOING IT' than lecturing everyone who tracks to not do it or else bc guess what the fact is rustles TMO so much makes people who volunteer to track WANT TO DO IT MORE.

if we had to mage track Class R spawns and were competing versus only other R guilds, you would never see it done.
I like you Eratani, but this is the reason that FFA sucks right now.
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Old 10-30-2014, 04:25 PM
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I like you Eratani, but this is the reason that FFA sucks right now.
did you completely gloss over this part


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Maybe we can try racing next weekend ( not this weekend since shit will need to be planned ) and see what happens, what issues arise....

and look for more stuff to hate me and my guild for?
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Old 10-30-2014, 04:08 PM
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Same thing that stops them from doing that currently. Or from parking a pet on spawn point currently.

No one but Class C would do something that would involve so many rechargeable on a weekly basis and you already have your foot racing agreement.
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Old 10-30-2014, 04:10 PM
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Same thing that stops them from doing that currently. Or from parking a pet on spawn point currently.

No one but Class C would do something that would involve so many rechargeable on a weekly basis and you already have your foot racing agreement.
Uhm no. A reaper is the only rechargeable in that scenario. Idols aren't really needed with DA song. It's just added insurance. By just doing away with mages or ducking you don't fix the inherent problem that YOU guys say exists. Arms Racing.
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Old 10-30-2014, 04:24 PM
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Im down for your 2 man foot race with SoW and start points if windows are like 30 minutes.

But right now the single biggest thing turning people away from FFA is sitting there for 16 hours. Reduce it to 30 min, remove CotHing and require a foot race, you will see far more guilds competing.

Even 8 hours or 4 hours you won't bring many more guilds into the fray. An episode of Futurama worth of time though... People will sit around and try for FTE and mobilize/log on for it.
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