New map desktop app coming soon (as long as it's still kosher with p99 rules)

[loramin]

Derubael already responded, pages and pages ago.

When I called y'all childish before I was referring to the lack of logic/reason in your posts. But now I swear you sound like little kids who didn't like the answer they got from Mom, so now they're running to Dad hoping to get a different answer.

[no chewie dont]

comparing a red server gm to mom is kinda weird imo but im not a doctor what do i know

[loramin]

Is Derubael a red-specific GM? I just assumed all the GMs worked both servers.

Learn something new every day ...

[Famous]

Love it so far, but it does have a little ways to go before it's as useful as the opposition here thinks it is. I do have a few suggestions that I think could help both the server and make it an even more useful program.

1. Make a global LFG list on the same page, afaik the /who LFG commands don't function as they did on live and it should be rather easy for the info to be grabbed from /who and from people going /lfg.

2. Have a "global" or lfg chat room on the same page. I know we already have the public mumble and the IRC, but they rarely get used and I think that a chat room on the map page would get a LOT more traffic.

3. Find some way for players to mark spawns, ie conning a mob and then doing a /loc so we could actually contribute to a real time map with all the mobs, their last kill time etc. This one is probably the most absurd, but hey...why not?

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Derubael already responded, pages and pages ago.

When I called y'all childish before I was referring to the lack of logic/reason in your posts. But now I swear you sound like little kids who didn't like the answer they got from Mom, so now they're running to Dad hoping to get a different answer.

Derubael did respond and say he thought it was okay. But he did provide the caveat that there are people over his head that may not agree. So its definitely a start. But not a final answer by any means.

[Mirox]

Originally Posted by tristantio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Other than not wanting to bother with GTK overlay, immersion also played into the decision when I decided to draw the map in browser (where the user is already tabbing to to read map information from EQAtlas).

The play flow without the app was previously:

• Do a /loc in game while auto-running the general direction
• Check position on map in browser (note the destination coods)
• Adjust X/Y and keep running until there

All this really does is combine into one action (two if you manually /loc).

The overlay map Mirox is working on steps into the bounds of what I considered risky from an add/app point of view (sure, it isn't rendering in the EQ client exe itself, or through the EQ UI elements, but it may as well be).

Synchronized friend locations was just a fun idea to expand since it is trivial to implement with the base setup (as soon as I decide to spend an hour or two on it).

Well, that is easily fixed with a transparent browser. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Zuranthium]

You've ruined your own lands, you'll not ruin mine too.

[LittleSorcerer7]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You've ruined your own lands, you'll not ruin mine too.

^

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Derubael did respond and say he thought it was okay. But he did provide the caveat that there are people over his head that may not agree. So its definitely a start. But not a final answer by any means.

Many other members of the P99 team (not just Derubael) have already stated in numerous threads that log-reading apps are allowed. Derubael then specifically responded to concerns that somehow this app was different by essentially saying "no, it's not (but Rogean could always overrule me)." That seems pretty clear/final to me.

It's kinda like how every judge in the country essentially says "this is my ruling (but the Supreme Court could always overrule me)". For any given court case your chances of the Supreme Court intervening are virtual none: if the judge says you're going to jail, you're going to jail, and just because you don't like it doesn't mean Ruth Bader Ginsburg is going to come save you.

Same deal here: technically Rogean could overrule anything Derubael ever decides, but the odds are really against it. It certainly doesn't mean we should respond to everything Derubael says with a 50-page thread asking Rogean for a response just because we don't like Derubael's call (especially when his call was essentially just "the existing server policy remains the same").

[LittleSorcerer7]

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