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Old 12-20-2013, 01:41 PM
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i vote disband. do it. you won't.
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:42 PM
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Ok, last one, but I really do think these TMO guys have great ideas for how the staff should handle this.

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Old 12-20-2013, 01:42 PM
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What a fucking cry baby.

At least when IB went to EQMac we were justifiably being persecuted by staff members at the time (Amelinda later revealed to be dating Tiggles/Uthgaard revealed to be assisting/feeding information to Tiggles), even if it wasn't proven until later.

TMO and Zeelot in particular are playing the Furor card and thinking/hoping Rogean gives a shit, because come on, does anyone but TMO/Zeelot REALLY believe they are being unfairly punished here? Not really.

Man up, you're not being treated unfairly, this isn't Amelinda 2.0 the deck has been stacked in your favor for years, quit crying if you get punished, eat the suspension admit that you were wrong and come back in 2 weeks.

For claritys sake: man up and quit acting like a giant baby throwing a tantrum.
Except IB was RMTing with Amelinda all along. Amelinda was being paid by Kinsawt(IB leader)

I love how you choose to forget this fact.
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:43 PM
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zeel is a big ol cry baby. u dont like free server, than leave.
He's such a cry baby he actually made and ran the most pixel successful guild in the history of any emu.

You know, rather than cry about rules, spawn times etc.

I would WAGER that Zeelot prefers effort and organization to complaining about things in almost every situation.

I'd rather that Internode / Froovy (or future players who commit egregious crimes) can *never* make a new account and play here again.

I see it too many times that a banned player just rerolls and gets brought up by all his friends, or offered an account to take over.

I definitely see this as preference to banning 86 accounts. Especially shared portbots. PERMA BANS for offenders and a list of such players, on BOTH SERVERS, who if identified after their initial ban, will be immediately banned again along with the suspension of guild officers who knowingly invited them (harder to prove). This hits way harder and does much more for the community than wiping out people who were around someone duping shit/using MQ/whatever unknowingly. Getting banned from blue should not be a ticket to go accept a pixel package on red either, and repeat crimes (worse they can amass wealth and trade it 3:1 to blue... been there and done that as Samrothstein and saw around a million pp/in items move). Scum never changes, ban it and don't let scum reroll on either server.

What I *DO* agree on is a progloned suspension for an account with more than 50 or so logins as long as items were not constantly traded through/between those accounts. Characters who consistently traded, around the time of the duping to present, in these items/plat found to be duplicated should suffer the same fate as those banned. That is to say permanently banned and on a watch list to immediately ban them if they are found rerolling characters again on either server.

The raid suspension might also be a good thing for a week or two. While I doubt everyone was in on it or many knew outside of the 2-3 doing it, it is a stern reminder to the officers of any guild to NEVER look the other way and IMMEDIATELY remove members if there is any suspicion of things like this going on. Maybe it isn't fair, maybe no one knew outside the people exploiting, but its a point you should get across.

Back on live, I was in a guild that was disbanded at least twice on Rallos (Peace of Formosa). I never duped my corpse and frankly never knew how to until everyone quit, and at which time, it had been fixed. I never ran MQ/SEQ or anything like that either. I didn't habitually train, kill steal or otherwise shit on EQ's PNP policy. However, having my guild disbanded and being left with a lengthy KOS list by supporting them has long served me as a reminder in games to be wary of allying with the shitbag party, because once the officers/leadership are gone, the guild fails and you're left holding the reputation bag.

As a closing note, I've had my hands in dealing with IB/FE/TMO and read all guild chats, got to know people individually at various ranks in the guilds and even sat in their vents. As Tiggles very wisely pointed out, just as 10% of the server causes 90% of the problems, 10% of the guild causes 90% of those problems.

The loot hogging (read: having more than 2 decked out characters aka epic+trakanon loot+sky) comes down to players having nothing new content wise to farm and they are constantly making new alts, gearing them out and camping them out at raid targets. I blame a lot of the behavior on the population being top heavy at the raid scene due to lack of content. Kunark came out without a ton of classic mechanics being addressed and Nilbog (I presume at his direction) has circled back with his devs and started fixing all the little elements that made classic EQ distinguishable from POP+. I'm sure we could have had Velious by now but there'd be a ton of jacked up/non-classic content and mechanics still sitting around, some of which were so glaring and severe that I would say they invalidated any pride in raiding (hi2u Sirran + supporting scum).

The best "fix" to all of this, and an enjoyable while still fair (you might not get every loot in the game, trust me), is to appreciate this as a WORK IN PROGRESS and more of a beta than anything else (grats if you spent RMT on this, lol). A fresh server start with an approximately correct timeline does ensure that all players will be rewarded closely in relation to their time investment/skill and also that content is released at such a pace that the guild who has had it on farm has something to move on to so the #2 guy can get in on the content without having to wait too long.


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Old 12-20-2013, 01:47 PM
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Random reply to whomever said even FoH shared mobs... LOL Did you play on veeshan? did you raid on veeshan? as for LoS Triton etc who knows... I didnt play on those servers- but I am a april 1999 veeshan vet- they didnt share anything they wanted or needed- you got what was left over np and they where generally really nice people in the day 2 day- I talked to alot of SKs like Faerin etc etc- but when it was "game face on" mode- if you where in their way- sorry dudes.
Legacy of Steel was definitely the most classy uberguild, They would always give others a shot a mobs if another guild was there first. Assuming you had the raid force there ready to take it and didnt have to wait hours for people to show up you still had a shot to kill things on Nameless.

If the group failed at their attempt they would kill it though. End of Story.

The only thing different about this server from classic is players attitudes, and training. The community is really terrible compared to what live was like. On nameless we had such a good relationship with LoS that we killed Avatar of War 1st time ever on any server and we split the loot between both guilds. Legacy of Steel did not poop sock, they did not camp alts and 15 different spawns. I dont even think most of them had alts. A lot of them had jobs and didnt live at home with their mom. Los even let us kill Temple of Veeshan mobs pre-luclin. They didnt lock stuff down all greedily. We even did a 2 group run on trak one time just for S&G's then we did a 2 group run on veeshan's peak. Half our guild and half legacy of steal. We raided with them in sleepers tomb all the time. That was the fun I remember in classic, not some 13 year olds trying to hoard all the pixels and just want to make sure no one else get pixels. People will actually still remember legacy of steel 10 years from now. And people will be like TMO WHO?
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:47 PM
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Except IB was RMTing with Amelinda all along. Amelinda was being paid by Kinsawt(IB leader)

I love how you choose to forget this fact.
Huh? They have NOTHING to do with my statement. I would not attempt to refute them or cry about them either. Of COURSE Amelinda assisted Kinsawt and others in RMTing off the server. That has no bearing on what I said.

Also, Kinsawt was not and never has been guild leader of IB.
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:47 PM
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The general consensus of the community and GMs/Staff is that TMO's "style of gameplay" is douche-baggery. So, yeah. I'll assume you're a TMO member so I can understand that due to your head being so far up your ass you can't see that what your guild has been doing has adversely affected the game play of everyone else on the server. Hell, I've seen at least a half dozen people post that "I'm might actually come back to the server". That says a lot my friend.
Nope never been TMO but thanks for revleaing how your leaps of logic are actually pitfalls. Thats great and if general consensus was anything more than a logical fallacy you might have a point. Oops too bad you don't.

You don't like how some people enjoy the game according to the rules of the server. Thats awesome for you you special little snowflake but it means shit when it comes to how the world either should be or is. The rules allow for FTE to claim the mob so thats what happens. You don't like it well tough shit really. You have the option of joining a guild that places demands on your time in order to get those mobs. You don't want to because you value your time someplace else - hey great - your choice. But the thing is you want to place restraints on others who value their time in game doing just that more than other things. You don't want to do the work required you just want to be given stuff on a platter backed up by your self-absorbed, egocentric, and childish whining to "make it fair" (of course fair is defined as what you want).

Pathetic.
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:48 PM
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Another great Nirgon post, +1
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:49 PM
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:52 PM
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Huh? They have NOTHING to do with my statement. I would not attempt to refute them or cry about them either. Of COURSE Amelinda assisted Kinsawt and others in RMTing off the server. That has no bearing on what I said.

Also, Kinsawt was not and never has been guild leader of IB.
Raid leader/officer. Whatever. You say tmo had GM assistance yet that same gm was assisting IB. Also that same gm Suspended TMO. Yep GM assistance.

You also didnt mention the 3 IB staff members Hobby/Cyrius/Xzerion, or Rogean being R/L friends with many of IB's older members. You didn't mention the Foxwoods dates, and direct phone calls Eashan and others got to make to rogean. (not to mention the direct line to its inguild staff members)

But please tell us more!
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