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i vote disband. do it. you won't.
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#312
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Ok, last one, but I really do think these TMO guys have great ideas for how the staff should handle this.
Tiggles: http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...27&postcount=9 | ||
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#313
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#314
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You know, rather than cry about rules, spawn times etc. I would WAGER that Zeelot prefers effort and organization to complaining about things in almost every situation. I'd rather that Internode / Froovy (or future players who commit egregious crimes) can *never* make a new account and play here again. I see it too many times that a banned player just rerolls and gets brought up by all his friends, or offered an account to take over. I definitely see this as preference to banning 86 accounts. Especially shared portbots. PERMA BANS for offenders and a list of such players, on BOTH SERVERS, who if identified after their initial ban, will be immediately banned again along with the suspension of guild officers who knowingly invited them (harder to prove). This hits way harder and does much more for the community than wiping out people who were around someone duping shit/using MQ/whatever unknowingly. Getting banned from blue should not be a ticket to go accept a pixel package on red either, and repeat crimes (worse they can amass wealth and trade it 3:1 to blue... been there and done that as Samrothstein and saw around a million pp/in items move). Scum never changes, ban it and don't let scum reroll on either server. What I *DO* agree on is a progloned suspension for an account with more than 50 or so logins as long as items were not constantly traded through/between those accounts. Characters who consistently traded, around the time of the duping to present, in these items/plat found to be duplicated should suffer the same fate as those banned. That is to say permanently banned and on a watch list to immediately ban them if they are found rerolling characters again on either server. The raid suspension might also be a good thing for a week or two. While I doubt everyone was in on it or many knew outside of the 2-3 doing it, it is a stern reminder to the officers of any guild to NEVER look the other way and IMMEDIATELY remove members if there is any suspicion of things like this going on. Maybe it isn't fair, maybe no one knew outside the people exploiting, but its a point you should get across. Back on live, I was in a guild that was disbanded at least twice on Rallos (Peace of Formosa). I never duped my corpse and frankly never knew how to until everyone quit, and at which time, it had been fixed. I never ran MQ/SEQ or anything like that either. I didn't habitually train, kill steal or otherwise shit on EQ's PNP policy. However, having my guild disbanded and being left with a lengthy KOS list by supporting them has long served me as a reminder in games to be wary of allying with the shitbag party, because once the officers/leadership are gone, the guild fails and you're left holding the reputation bag. As a closing note, I've had my hands in dealing with IB/FE/TMO and read all guild chats, got to know people individually at various ranks in the guilds and even sat in their vents. As Tiggles very wisely pointed out, just as 10% of the server causes 90% of the problems, 10% of the guild causes 90% of those problems. The loot hogging (read: having more than 2 decked out characters aka epic+trakanon loot+sky) comes down to players having nothing new content wise to farm and they are constantly making new alts, gearing them out and camping them out at raid targets. I blame a lot of the behavior on the population being top heavy at the raid scene due to lack of content. Kunark came out without a ton of classic mechanics being addressed and Nilbog (I presume at his direction) has circled back with his devs and started fixing all the little elements that made classic EQ distinguishable from POP+. I'm sure we could have had Velious by now but there'd be a ton of jacked up/non-classic content and mechanics still sitting around, some of which were so glaring and severe that I would say they invalidated any pride in raiding (hi2u Sirran + supporting scum). The best "fix" to all of this, and an enjoyable while still fair (you might not get every loot in the game, trust me), is to appreciate this as a WORK IN PROGRESS and more of a beta than anything else (grats if you spent RMT on this, lol). A fresh server start with an approximately correct timeline does ensure that all players will be rewarded closely in relation to their time investment/skill and also that content is released at such a pace that the guild who has had it on farm has something to move on to so the #2 guy can get in on the content without having to wait too long. Dictated but not read. | |||
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Last edited by Nirgon; 12-20-2013 at 01:46 PM..
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#315
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If the group failed at their attempt they would kill it though. End of Story. The only thing different about this server from classic is players attitudes, and training. The community is really terrible compared to what live was like. On nameless we had such a good relationship with LoS that we killed Avatar of War 1st time ever on any server and we split the loot between both guilds. Legacy of Steel did not poop sock, they did not camp alts and 15 different spawns. I dont even think most of them had alts. A lot of them had jobs and didnt live at home with their mom. Los even let us kill Temple of Veeshan mobs pre-luclin. They didnt lock stuff down all greedily. We even did a 2 group run on trak one time just for S&G's then we did a 2 group run on veeshan's peak. Half our guild and half legacy of steal. We raided with them in sleepers tomb all the time. That was the fun I remember in classic, not some 13 year olds trying to hoard all the pixels and just want to make sure no one else get pixels. People will actually still remember legacy of steel 10 years from now. And people will be like TMO WHO? | |||
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Last edited by heazels; 12-20-2013 at 01:51 PM..
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Also, Kinsawt was not and never has been guild leader of IB.
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You don't like how some people enjoy the game according to the rules of the server. Thats awesome for you you special little snowflake but it means shit when it comes to how the world either should be or is. The rules allow for FTE to claim the mob so thats what happens. You don't like it well tough shit really. You have the option of joining a guild that places demands on your time in order to get those mobs. You don't want to because you value your time someplace else - hey great - your choice. But the thing is you want to place restraints on others who value their time in game doing just that more than other things. You don't want to do the work required you just want to be given stuff on a platter backed up by your self-absorbed, egocentric, and childish whining to "make it fair" (of course fair is defined as what you want). Pathetic. | |||
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#318
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Another great Nirgon post, +1
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You also didnt mention the 3 IB staff members Hobby/Cyrius/Xzerion, or Rogean being R/L friends with many of IB's older members. You didn't mention the Foxwoods dates, and direct phone calls Eashan and others got to make to rogean. (not to mention the direct line to its inguild staff members) But please tell us more! | |||
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