Discussion on R99 vs VZTZ **POSTPONED**

[Smedy]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shoulda given Smedy the sunstrike

I do regret forgetting to do that

No worries pal i actually got my hands on that eventually, i wish i woulda killed nizzar with it but that fucking soulfire clicky

[Stinkum]

Originally Posted by Smedy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What you don't realize is that your pixels are WORTHLESS if there's no one else playing but you guys,

Oh, they know.

They don't care. They'd happily log on completely empty server with literally zero other players, as long as they could still loot a shiny new piece of Elf armor on their 14th VP-geared alt once a week when dragons spawn.

The current crop of Nihilum have no interest in PvP. They are simply Blue players who migrated here because it's a smaller pool of competition than the other server.

[runlvlzero]

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Need an intervention here IMO

[Malevz]

Didn't read thread, never played vztz, p1999 was my first emu.

I see two issues:

1. Resists.
I would be surprised to hear anyone argue resists are balanced, you only need to look at the number of wizards in game lately to see this is not true. People gravitate to the easiest classes for pvp. Anyway, fix this.

2. OOC
I don't mind it, I turn it off, sometimes I ooc trolls and don't even open the ooc window to see how it goes. Not all people feel this way. I like the server and I try to get as many people as I can to play. However I hear the same talk of all the drama and shit talk in ooc make the environment toxic. There is actual hate and anger in ooc, and it drives people from the server. It's not a good first impression.

Make auction global, ooc zone wide, and throttle auction so you can use it once every 15-20 minutes. Don't scare away good new players because a small number of idiots need attention and don't know they are playing a game.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's the issue bro, 3-4 competing guilds isn't classic.

it was on my server [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] (Defiant vs 12 Prophets vs Xanit K'Ven) and if it was really that rare of a thing, then i feel bad for a lot of you. 3 or more guilds that are able to compete with each other is imo the best thing for a server. even just 2 teams in my opinion gets stale and boring pretty quickly.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Smedy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No worries pal i actually got my hands on that eventually

I can now be at peace

[heals4reals]

Sirken feels bad for u son

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it was on my server [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] (Defiant vs 12 Prophets vs Xanit K'Ven) and if it was really that rare of a thing, then i feel bad for a lot of you. 3 or more guilds that are able to compete with each other is imo the best thing for a server. even just 2 teams in my opinion gets stale and boring pretty quickly.

On pve servers, you were competing against yourself in a top guild to down end game content because there were always new expacs on the horizon, and you often wouldn't finish the current expansion until right around when the next one launched, so it wasn't "boring."

As to Smedy's essay, I challenge you to explain to me how variance will help the competition when they will require ranger/monk alts in all raid mob zones 24/7 with the ability to bat phone 20+ people on @ at any time of day to kill the mob.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No.

People said the same thing on Blue when Kunark was released that Kunark would be the great equalizer. That now other non-#1 guilds would be able to raid Classic content since the #1 would be preoccupied with Kunark.

TMO still poopsocks everything in site, and so will Nihilum. When you have eight level 60 alts fully geared, raid buffed, and parked on every dragon.. It's not gonna matter how much more content is introduced to spread things thinner, because there's plenty to go around and these people do not have jobs, girlfriends, or social lives.

The rest of your post is true.

Kunark is entirely different than Velious. Kunark gives you VS / 3 outdoor dragons / trak / and VP as your raid content, with the 3 outdoor dragons dropping mainly classic vox/naggy loot with a couple of "new" items sprinkled in. Velious gives you Tormax/Dain/Yelinak/AoW/Statute/Vindi/NToV/EToV/Zlandicar/WW Dragons/Ring War/Shawl/Armor Farms/Gem Farms/Sleepers/Velektor/PoG/PoM/Lodizal/Wuoshi/Kelok. It's not even close.

[Nirgon]

Do not compare Nihilum to TMO.

Nihilum wouldn't dethrone TMO on blue, not even close =).

Kringe beat Nihilum and was then in turn beaten by flipping the server switch a few times.