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Old 08-08-2013, 11:03 AM
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unintentional training is blue.

Intentional training is a) griefing and b) a red tactic..and not even a honorable red tactic.
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Old 08-08-2013, 11:04 AM
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unintentional training is blue.

Intentional training is a) griefing and b) a red tactic..and not even a honorable red tactic.
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Old 08-08-2013, 03:48 PM
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unintentional training is blue.

Intentional training is a) griefing and b) a red tactic..and not even a honorable red tactic.
Or Blue.
A mob killing a player is player vs environment by its nature. Whether or its allowed or not is a different question. The trainer did 0 damage to the player = PVE, and its also classic.
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Old 08-08-2013, 03:55 PM
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Or Blue.
A mob killing a player is player vs environment by its nature. Whether or its allowed or not is a different question. The trainer did 0 damage to the player = PVE, and its also classic.
So, if training was legal, I could follow you around and train you all day if i wanted? You would just have to watch out for that environment that is coming down your throat.
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Old 08-08-2013, 04:24 PM
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Or Blue.
A mob killing a player is player vs environment by its nature. Whether or its allowed or not is a different question. The trainer did 0 damage to the player = PVE, and its also classic.
No, player_A did 100% of the damage to player_B because player_B would not have any aggro from the train if it was not for intentional interference by player_A. This is exceptionally true when player_B is non-aggro to the NPCs (invis) and player_A forces an AOE from the NPCs that catches player_B. When player_A intentionally imposes the environment on player_B, that is player vs. player.
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Old 08-08-2013, 10:02 AM
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So what you guys are saying is high end raiding is toxic because training is allowed in VP?

Show of hands how many of you that are complaining about this have seen VP beyond on a Twitch feed or Wiki link?

How many of you think your guild could be clearing VP right now if training wasnt occuring there?

Now a show of hands on how many of you feel that endgame raiding is too toxic for you and dont want to do it?

I think once those numbers were tallied It would show a majority of the people who feel high end raiding is too toxic feel that way not because of VP but because of the way a small percent of the server treats each other where it can be seen by everyone else.

Those who say TMO or IB or FE or BDA or FC or any other raiding guild are the cause of the problems with raiding scene are probably right but its not the raiding scene itself its how you guys treat each other where people can see. Its like a really bad reality internet tv show staring politicians.
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:23 PM
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So what you guys are saying is high end raiding is toxic because training is allowed in VP?
End game is toxic because there are more players than loot to go around. Its classic.
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:20 PM
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So what you guys are saying is high end raiding is toxic because training is allowed in VP? seems so

Show of hands how many of you that are complaining about this have seen VP beyond on a Twitch feed or Wiki link? almost all of them

How many of you think your guild could be clearing VP right now if training wasnt occuring there? maybe 4 guilds top could clear all but 1 or 2 dragons

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Old 08-08-2013, 10:55 AM
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Except for VP (and ST?)
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Old 08-08-2013, 11:02 AM
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