Best 4 person all caster/priest group

[Keebz]

The thread is "Best 4 person all caster/priest group", not "best at disco group".

I also bring mages to Fungi King all the time, even though I can do duo it. Mages are also great for Tola/Prot. You clearly don't understand how abusable chain summoning pets is.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The thread is "Best 4 person all caster/priest group", not "best at disco group".

I also bring mages to Fungi King all the time, even though I can do duo it. Mages are also great for Tola/Prot. You clearly don't understand how abusable chain summoning pets is.

Troxx didn't bring Fungi King parse data. I am using similar mobs to what he was parsing. Mob level will affect the parses, so I want to be as equal as possible.

I am not saying you can't bring Mages to Fungi King. But you don't need them there. That's the point. You could bring a Wizard to Fungi King too and they could burst some things down. But you would probably prefer a Mage over a Wizard[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand chain pets just fine. Chaining pets isn't increasing your DPS, it is keeping it steady.

[Keebz]

There's a stanos parse from Balimon. Go parse a real mob.

We are either talking about leveling, in which case you've admitted shaman isn't ideal, or we are talking about big game hunting at lvl 60 and so far all your rhetoric is about killing some lvl 40 trash around disco.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's a stanos parse from Balimon. Go parse a real mob.

We are either talking about leveling, in which case you've admitted shaman isn't ideal, or we are talking about big game hunting at lvl 60 and so far all your rhetoric is about killing some lvl 40 trash around disco.

Parse the videos on my youtube channel. Those mobs are plenty tough[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] But again, my DPS will be lower because I am also tanking the mob. Remember that a Shaman can kill a lot of mobs that a Mage cannot, so that should also be taken into account. Half DPS due to tanking is better than 0 DPS because you died to the mob lol.

[Vexenu]

Burnt Wood Staff = 25 DPS clickie nuke, OR
Boots of Bladecalling = 35 DPS clickie nuke
Mage Velious Robe = clickie Shield of Lava (25 point DS)
Mage Velious Pants = clickie Burnout III (pet haste)

A Mage can pump out massive sustained DPS for hours on end using literally no mana and by pressing two buttons per mob. Throw in C2 and downtime medding and the Mage can also toss in regular nukes for even higher DPS. A focused 60 water pet positioned for backstabbing is very close if not greater than epic pet DPS and is very attainable for every Mage main.

The Mage is easily maintaining over 100 DPS while day trading, doing laundry, gardening and lifting weights. Meanwhile DSM's keyboard is catching on fire from pressing buttons so fast trying to Canni/Torpor back the 800 mana he is blowing each kill. StarCraft world champions literally salivating over this man's sustained APM and click speed. Korean teenagers making pilgrimages to his house to learn his secrets (he tells them nothing, he just whispers "I did it all for the Fungi"). Even still, despite his best efforts, he is easily smoked by the Mage's DPS in real world scenarios.But his quixotic crusade persists. He must spread the gospel of Bane and Pox. It's worth it to him to be recognized as the only DPS Shaman in the history of EverQuest (in his delusional mind at least).

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Burnt Wood Staff = 25 DPS clickie nuke, OR
Boots of Bladecalling = 35 DPS clickie nuke
Mage Velious Robe = clickie Shield of Lava (25 point DS)
Mage Velious Pants = clickie Burnout III (pet haste)

A Mage can pump out massive sustained DPS for hours on end using literally no mana and by pressing two buttons per mob. Throw in C2 and downtime medding and the Mage can also toss in regular nukes for even higher DPS. A focused 60 water pet positioned for backstabbing is very close if not greater than epic pet DPS and is very attainable for every Mage main.

The Mage is easily maintaining over 100 DPS while day trading, doing laundry, gardening and lifting weights. Meanwhile DSM's keyboard is catching on fire from pressing buttons so fast trying to Canni/Torpor back the 800 mana he is blowing each kill. StarCraft world champions literally salivating over this man's sustained APM and click speed. Korean teenagers making pilgrimages to his house to learn his secrets (he tells them nothing, he just whispers "I did it all for the Fungi"). Even still, despite his best efforts, he is easily smoked by the Mage's DPS in real world scenarios.But his quixotic crusade persists. He must spread the gospel of Bane and Pox. It's worth it to him to be recognized as the only DPS Shaman in the history of EverQuest (in his delusional mind at least).

You do know that Mages can only cast 1 spell at a time right?

At best you are adding 17 DPS because you are using Boots of Bladecalling instead of Shock of Steel. So you could do 105 DPS tops. A Shaman could also do well over 100 DPS any time there are multiple mobs in camp to DoT. A Shaman can also deal damage or do other things while their DoTs are ticking, while a Mage is basically stuck with the casting window if they are spamming their clickies.

The only silly thing here is you think ~30 DPS is worth losing all of the other things a Shaman can do. A group with 2 Enchanters is already doing plenty of DPS, you aren't going to notice the 30 extra DPS the Mage is doing.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Burnt Wood Staff = 25 DPS clickie nuke, OR
Boots of Bladecalling = 35 DPS clickie nuke
Mage Velious Robe = clickie Shield of Lava (25 point DS)
Mage Velious Pants = clickie Burnout III (pet haste)

A Mage can pump out massive sustained DPS for hours on end using literally no mana and by pressing two buttons per mob. Throw in C2 and downtime medding and the Mage can also toss in regular nukes for even higher DPS. A focused 60 water pet positioned for backstabbing is very close if not greater than epic pet DPS and is very attainable for every Mage main.

The Mage is easily maintaining over 100 DPS while day trading, doing laundry, gardening and lifting weights. Meanwhile DSM's keyboard is catching on fire from pressing buttons so fast trying to Canni/Torpor back the 800 mana he is blowing each kill. StarCraft world champions literally salivating over this man's sustained APM and click speed. Korean teenagers making pilgrimages to his house to learn his secrets (he tells them nothing, he just whispers "I did it all for the Fungi"). Even still, despite his best efforts, he is easily smoked by the Mage's DPS in real world scenarios.But his quixotic crusade persists. He must spread the gospel of Bane and Pox. It's worth it to him to be recognized as the only DPS Shaman in the history of EverQuest (in his delusional mind at least).

Best post in this thread. /clap

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Best post in this thread. /clap

It's really not. With Boots he is doing 105 DPS. With Epic DoT a Shaman is doing an extra 7-15 DPS per mob depending on tick time, plus at least 5-10 DPS with JBB. A Shaman can increase their DPS by roughly the same amount if we add clickies to the equation, so you aren't gaining any ground. Plus Epic DoT is not limited to a single target, so you can root/rot multiple mobs in any area that supports it.

[Troxx]

Ahhh … a walk down memory lane

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Burnt Wood Staff = 25 DPS clickie nuke, OR
Boots of Bladecalling = 35 DPS clickie nuke
Mage Velious Robe = clickie Shield of Lava (25 point DS)
Mage Velious Pants = clickie Burnout III (pet haste)

A Mage can pump out massive sustained DPS for hours on end using literally no mana and by pressing two buttons per mob. Throw in C2 and downtime medding and the Mage can also toss in regular nukes for even higher DPS. A focused 60 water pet positioned for backstabbing is very close if not greater than epic pet DPS and is very attainable for every Mage main.

The Mage is easily maintaining over 100 DPS while day trading, doing laundry, gardening and lifting weights. Meanwhile DSM's keyboard is catching on fire from pressing buttons so fast trying to Canni/Torpor back the 800 mana he is blowing each kill. StarCraft world champions literally salivating over this man's sustained APM and click speed. Korean teenagers making pilgrimages to his house to learn his secrets (he tells them nothing, he just whispers "I did it all for the Fungi"). Even still, despite his best efforts, he is easily smoked by the Mage's DPS in real world scenarios.But his quixotic crusade persists. He must spread the gospel of Bane and Pox. It's worth it to him to be recognized as the only DPS Shaman in the history of EverQuest (in his delusional mind at least).

A pattern has emerged as I find the funniest yet most on-point posts. It’s the same person each time …

As of the bottom of 34, DSM is up to his eyeballs and arguing with literally everyone but Danth who has struck a neutral and somber/mature/balanced tone.

Pocket clerics have not yet entered the discussion. DSM still arguing for shaman being the 4th, not the third thus replacing the cleric. Why did his mind change so thoroughly as to discount the value of the cleric? Hmmm…

[Vexenu]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A pattern has emerged as I find the funniest yet most on-point posts. It’s the same person each time …

Originally Posted by Troxx

He really did have some of the best posts. Kudos to Vex (page 48)

Originally Posted by Vexenu

Korean teenagers making pilgrimages to his house to learn his secrets (he tells them nothing, he just whispers "I did it all for the Fungi").

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