I invite anyone to have a regular discussion about guns, feel free to ask anything

[mickmoranis]

The left "the other side is trying to enslave you and manipulate you and imprison you! Rise up! Resist!"

The Right "So, The left says we're trying to enslave you? Well that's no suprise, they're a little wacky... youre free to do whatever you want, if you want to sleep in my house it'll cost you money, also here is a bill of rights to ensure that you are free and your childrens children are free and that no one will ever have the right or ability to take what's yours from you or force you to do anything you dont want to do."

The left "THEYRE FASCISTS TRYING TO RULE THE WORLD! LETS DESTROY THAT BILL OF RIGHTS SO WE CAN GET RID OF THEM! KILL THE RICH! KILL THEM!"

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Irulan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's ban unhappiness.

This is where me and the left just dont understand each other at all..

Like for the last 20 years all I have been hearing is bully this, bully that... we have to do something about the children. All of them are special. Bla bla bla.

On top of that, for decades the left has this little thing it always likes to bring up ( but rarely does anything more than that ) called "education spending", They say we need to do more, they say the teachers arent getting what they need. They've been saying it for decades!

Now Im over here trying to figure out how the hell have you not been able to fix that yet?

Then, here we are, and there is a very clear corrilation between mass shootings and the state of education in our country and LOW AND BEHOLD the left is silent!

Not one of them is trying to even CONSIDER for a second that MAYBE there is a pressure that weve cooked into this pressure cooker of rising numbers of students and lowering our standards of educating and guiding them into adulthood?

Why? Because theyre brainwashed automatons that have been drinking from the tit of big corporate media for 20 years, listening to thugs like John Oliver rant and rave and make up fake stories and leave out key information in what they all say "is comedy not news!" and yet they quote snippets of every late night comedian in arguments on the internet.

They've become soldiers in a war they dont even know exists where the left and the right battle it out in control for our country. A war that is run by two corperations the DNC and the GOP who have completely taken over control of our goverment.

I dont like to pick sides, but the factions are in control and they've managed to tighten their grip to the point that you cannot not pick a side. The DNC made that clear, if you arent for us, YOURE AGENST US!

But, I will pick the side that at least offers a contractual assurance that they will never, ever be able to to take away my rights. The side that knows that WITH SOME GOOD there is always going to be SOME BAD.

The side that ensures my safety and my freedom. The side that says "yes of course you can arm yourself to defend yourself from us." not the one that says "no you wont need that when we are in charge. Give it to me. Now."

The left truly believes that the right is immoral but you gotta hand it to the immoral leaders of the right, it sure is nice that they have designed a system that I will always have my rights, justice is blind, and the will of the people is absolute.

[Irulan]

I was being cynical.

Of course we can't legislate ppl into happiness. Morality. Or goodness.

I apologize for using a tool of the devil.

Also, in all seriousness, I'm not really indicative of the left. I don't want you to lay down your arms or your family and community.

I wish your people all the best. I wish more people where as passionate as you about looking after their own. And I want you to be able to.

I'm really serious about that. I don't want to be on the opposing side.

[Domo]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

mean, because of course we are PRETENDING if you think that we're going to CHANGE the entire foundation of this country because a bunch of tea drinking birkrhram yoga addicted adult children are afraid of guns and we have as few as 400 publicised mass shooting deaths a year out of 320 million free americans that are free BECAUSE of the right to own guns?

So a country can be only free as long it have acces to guns?

You sound like you cant wait for the next civil war to use your collection of Penis extension (guns).


However, I belive people can have access to guns as long they follow some special rules and prove that they are not idiots.
But I understand it that people like this are afraid to lose their right for guns with stricter gun laws.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Irulan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was being cynical.

Of course we can't legislate ppl into happiness.

I apologize for using the tools of the devil.

I wasnt calling you out, just piggy backing on that thought.

It made me think, we can ban unhappyness if we just had a better quality of life built around our schools.

If educators knew how to make kids happy, they could educate them and would prevent school shootings.

But they dont know how to do that anymore because anyone smart enough to know how to do that isnt dumb enough to be a teacher this day and age.

Now you might say "vote fora democrat if you want to see that change" (dear reader) but if that were true then why the FUCK didnt they change it over the last 8 years? or the 20 before that, or the 20 before that? Why the fuck is it slipping right through their fingers, and why the hell when the god damn microscope is pointing directly at our schools THEY DONT EVEN BRING IT UP and when you do they argue against it!

Because they dont care about that shit, they care about one thing, winning, and banning guns. They win by telling the lefty big hearted liberals that they are the party that wants to fix education, and they ignore it because they want a clear agenda: Ban guns, disarm the population

WHY is it so obvious to the right but not the left

The only people that have ever wanted to do that were people who wanted to take control of everything. and the party of the left is literally designed around people having limited freedoms to pay for the greater good?!

is it so un obvious to everyone how abundantly clear it is that the left is 1:1 the same as any other hostile communist regime? Its baffeling to me that it isnt at least humorus to the left

"boy i know we're not actually the fascists but the whole pitting people against each other based on skin, sex and religion, the whole take guns away thing, the whole everyone is forced to pitch in to pay for everyone else, the whole if we had more laws we could make the world safer shit.. all that sure sounds fucked up, im so glad that I PERSONALLY know that we're not the bad guys and that even though all the things we believe you'd ahve to be a bad guy to agree with, that we're all of sound moral character on this side and would NEVER, ever, be evil."

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Domo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So a country can be only free as long it have acces to guns?

yes this is a historical fact, just becuse you live in the golden area brought on becuse of that fact doesnt mean that the guns are not going to be required once the vast majority of society, have ripped apart the life that their forefathers built for them.

Like all children do. This is nothing new, this is normal rinse and repeate. Family makes money, kids blow it all. Forefathers build society, children turn it into sadam and ghamora.

Society fight for freedom, become free, build society that protects the freedoms of people, the free have kids and they grow up to be drug addicts and sinners of society are safe because theyre taken care of, the money runs out, life turns to shit, soceity fight again and start over.

All of the freedoms you have in europe, canada, everywhere, is all because of AMERICA and our GOD DAMN RIGHT to own guns and the ass kicking we gave the british with them.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even though the CDC has found that there are hundreds of thousands of cases of defensive gun use every year?

source?

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

source?

http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/22/gu...er-publicized/

CDC was never prevented from doing studies about guns or gun violence, that was all a lie litearlly told to you on Television by mr nobel peace prise winner communist gun grabbing obama.

I know you kids think that shit is just fanatical shit but when a leader lies to you about his entire campaign and tries to take your guns and then straight up goes on TV and tells you FAKE LAWS exist, that mother fucker is a communist gun grabber.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/22/gu...er-publicized/

CDC was never prevented from doing studies about guns or gun violence, that was all a lie litearlly told to you on Television by mr nobel peace prise winner communist gun grabbing obama.

I know you kids think that shit is just fanatical shit but when a leader lies to you about his entire campaign and tries to take your guns and then straight up goes on TV and tells you FAKE LAWS exist, that mother fucker is a communist gun grabber.

link to the cdc thing. dailycaller and "gary kleck says" is hot garbage.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

link to the cdc thing. dailycaller and "gary kleck says" is hot garbage.

https://www.cdc.gov/about/organization/cio.htm