Proposition For Raid Rules - Input Requested - Page 31

Autotune · #1 12-28-2013, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I realize, was being facetious =D So in real terms who does that mean?

IB, FE, TMO, AG, Taken, Europa, BDA, Div, knights who say ni, doljon...? Because I mean, people who haven't even started at a target would want to vote if a rotation is a real option. Lots of people haven't raided on this server due to the difficulty of it. With even more people trying to go for the same few targets, it'll only compound the problems for most of the guilds.

What I imagine, or what I'd think the staff would do, is have a discussion with the main guilds that wish to participate. They'd all have a voice towards what system they would like to put forward. The staff and guilds would then hash out the best implementation of that system and then put it into effect.

The staff are the ones who should say which guilds do an don't have a voice in this as every guild would have their own agenda behind their reasons to include/exclude guilds.

HeallunRumblebelly · #2 12-28-2013, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What I imagine, or what I'd think the staff would do, is have a discussion with the main guilds that wish to participate. They'd all have a voice towards what system they would like to put forward. The staff and guilds would then hash out the best implementation of that system and then put it into effect.

The staff are the ones who should say which guilds do an don't have a voice in this as every guild would have their own agenda behind their reasons to include/exclude guilds.

Mm hmm. I'm just trying to figure out where the balance would lie if a vote of all available options were taken depending on who was brought to the table. Certainly less hectic than it is now, but how much so? It's all just conjecture, but it does make me wonder.

quido · #3 12-28-2013, 12:40 AM

Let's talk meeting in another couple days. So many people are still out of town for the holidays (myself included) and consequently haven't given this the attention it deserves.

Troubled · #4 12-28-2013, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's talk meeting in another couple days. So many people are still out of town for the holidays (myself included) and consequently haven't given this the attention it deserves.

Fair enough. Until then, we'll continue to confine and refine ideas.

Autotune · #5 12-28-2013, 12:38 AM

I'd hope that the staff/rogean wouldn't say raid guilds and then only include the well established raid guilds when they want to effectively make the raid scene available to everyone. The biased top enders will only look out for themselves while throwing a bone to the people who aren't tagged with them and the ones at the bottom will want the top guys to cut their right arm, left leg, and both nuts off to satisfy their thirst.

aka, need a good representation from the top, middle, and bottom or you need to just include everyone.

HeallunRumblebelly · #6 12-28-2013, 12:44 AM

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I'd hope that the staff/rogean wouldn't say raid guilds and then only include the well established raid guilds when they want to effectively make the raid scene available to everyone. The biased top enders will only look out for themselves while throwing a bone to the people who aren't tagged with them and the ones at the bottom will want the top guys to cut their right arm, left leg, and both nuts off to satisfy their thirst.

aka, need a good representation from the top, middle, and bottom or you need to just include everyone.

But the bottom is so much bigger than the top. If it's a majority, the top will topple.

quido · #7 12-28-2013, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

90% of this thread is Alarti and Jeremy telling us how no one other than them deserve to see raid mobs.

Look, we know you're fucking retarded already, but please stop putting words into my mouth; I have said nothing of this sort. I have repeatedly stated that I/we are willing to play ball and are looking to significantly increase the share of the casuals. However, an even split is preposterous and you know it.

Troubled · #8 12-28-2013, 02:05 AM

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However, an even split is preposterous and you know it.

You know it's not, you're just fighting it. An even split still puts you ahead by 2 years out of 2 years and 3* months.

*subject to change

quido · #9 12-28-2013, 02:07 AM

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You know it's not, you're just fighting it. An even split still puts you ahead by 2 years out of 2 years and 3* months.

*subject to change

People try to act like nobody ever got a mob since TMO was formed.

Keep fighting for an even split and see where it gets you.

Troubled · #10 12-28-2013, 02:10 AM

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People try to act like nobody ever got a mob since TMO was formed.

Keep fighting for an even split and see where it gets you.

Keep fighting for TMO and FEIB to take most of the raid scene over more and see where it gets you. Our chat shouldn't have devolved into this. Are you ready to continue real discussions?