PSA: ATTN - If you are bound in raid zones, read this

[Nirgon]

I'm sure nothing bad will happen if you stay bound there.

Worst case you can always say you were going to but couldn't last night to see if he'll really do it then try to get unbanned.

What's the worst that could happen.

[heartbrand]

The rule was before Kunark, so everything you just said makes no sense. We, the players, requested it, because at the time casters spawned with a full mana bar and exp loss on pvp was negligible, so you had casters like wizards who could one shot people insta popping dropping bombs over and over. Once the patch went in that removed mana from casters upon death the whole concept of bind-rushing disappeared, and the underlying rationale for the removal of binding from zones in which it was enabled in classic no longer seemed to apply. However, if you are to think in fact that bind-rushing is still an epidemic on Red99, then the same logic that was used to argue for the implementation of that change should lead you to the conclusion that KC should be flagged FFA as well.

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The rule was before Kunark, so everything you just said makes no sense. We, the players, requested it, because at the time casters spawned with a full mana bar and exp loss on pvp was negligible, so you had casters like wizards who could one shot people insta popping dropping bombs over and over. Once the patch went in that removed mana from casters upon death the whole concept of bind-rushing disappeared, and the underlying rationale for the removal of binding from zones in which it was enabled in classic no longer seemed to apply. However, if you are to think in fact that bind-rushing is still an epidemic on Red99, then the same logic that was used to argue for the implementation of that change should lead you to the conclusion that KC should be flagged FFA as well.

i thought casters spawned with however much mana they had when they died. but i do agree, KC was a no bind zone on live. no idea why people can bind there atm.

[heartbrand]

I actually vaguely remember that as well tbh, but the point is the same, you could still pop, drop an ice comet, die, pop another ice comet, die, repeat until yes eventually you'd run oom. The whole bind-rushing thing was never even that big an issue, I think it hurt holo once pretty bad in Fear when half of Nihilum was bound there and kept popping up like Saphira and Destin after we killed them and they'd proceed to drop bolts / ice comets over and over.

[Nirgon]

Invis pulling things to charm out of the pit. Next question.

Who cares anyway HB? Lady Vox can be killed with 6 people in classic, less even LOL (credit for this knowledge given to Supreme).

[p-niner]

Ok solb and perma u dumb fuck

Skyfire ej kc are not ffa move on

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by p-niner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok solb and perma u dumb fuck

Sol B / Perma / Fear / Sebilis / VP / Sky / Hate are the current FFA zones

[p-niner]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sol B / Perma / Fear / Sebilis / VP / Sky / Hate are the current FFA zones

Lists FFA zones with level 46 requirement


Well played

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by p-niner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok solb and perma u dumb fuck

Skyfire ej kc are not ffa move on

Right, and my very simple point is that perhaps they should be based upon the logic that was used for requesting the change to Sol B and Perma. The distinction of what made Sol B and Perma FFA [ a non-classic arbitrarily applied distinction ] was that they had "raid mobs". Doesn't KC have a raid mob? Doesn't SF? Doesn't EJ? So what is your logical basis for saying those shouldn't be? If your only logical explanation is that because it's been arbitrarily decided as such then you truly are retarded.

edit: And this WILL become a big issue in Velious with zones like Kael and Skyshrine. Should those be FFA which would mean binding would be disabled, despite the importance for melees of being able to be bound in those zones? You keep fixating on permafrost, an empty zone which was never even an issue on this server when the change was made, while ignoring the far greater ramifications.

[K|mm Barely]

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