not a single player has told me to plan on raiding

[Skope]

Originally Posted by lecompte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^ I'm having deja vu about porigromus' post, feels like I read it yesterday somewhere?

This entire thread is deja vu.

[JurisDictum]

I've been playing the server 2 months now. I got to say. The BS I read on these forums is misleading at best.
A week ago my brother and I were running through DL and saw Gorenaire up, and had to acutally tell a guild he was up before a raid force showed. This isn't the first time I've seen a viable raid/groupable mob up for quite awhile before being downed...people with 15 level 60 at accounts?..please.
This hyperbole about 24/7 camped raid targets is ridicules. Yes the guilds with more people on a lot get targets the vast majority of the time...who would of thought? I'm guessing there are even a handful of players without jobs that camp them...
Welcome to Everquest 1999. This is exactly how it used to be. Don't expect to to raid the top endgame targets unless you are a power gamer, end of story.
The thing about a server based on nostalgia, is it seems to attract a type of person that is very idealistic and ungrounded in their thinking. What they really want is a server where they can play 4 hours 3 days a week and raid top targets. There is a game where you can do this...its called WoW. Or Perhaps the EZ server...idk.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've been playing the server 2 months now. I got to say. The BS I read on these forums is misleading at best.
A week ago my brother and I were running through DL and saw Gorenaire up, and had to acutally tell a guild he was up before a raid force showed. This isn't the first time I've seen a viable raid/groupable mob up for quite awhile before being downed...people with 15 level 60 at accounts?..please.
This hyperbole about 24/7 camped raid targets is ridicules. Yes the guilds with more people on a lot get targets the vast majority of the time...who would of thought? I'm guessing there are even a handful of players without jobs that camp them...
Welcome to Everquest 1999. This is exactly how it used to be. Don't expect to to raid the top endgame targets unless you are a power gamer, end of story.
The thing about a server based on nostalgia, is it seems to attract a type of person that is very idealistic and ungrounded in their thinking. What they really want is a server where they can play 4 hours 3 days a week and raid top targets. There is a game where you can do this...its called WoW. Or Perhaps the EZ server...idk.

Gore is a special case because she's basically the hardest kunark target outside of VP (or maybe queen bee) so only TMO/FE and BDA (on a good day) can take her down

[stonez138]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've been playing the server 2 months now. I got to say. The BS I read on these forums is misleading at best.
A week ago my brother and I were running through DL and saw Gorenaire up, and had to acutally tell a guild he was up before a raid force showed. This isn't the first time I've seen a viable raid/groupable mob up for quite awhile before being downed...people with 15 level 60 at accounts?..please.
This hyperbole about 24/7 camped raid targets is ridicules. Yes the guilds with more people on a lot get targets the vast majority of the time...who would of thought? I'm guessing there are even a handful of players without jobs that camp them...
Welcome to Everquest 1999. This is exactly how it used to be. Don't expect to to raid the top endgame targets unless you are a power gamer, end of story.
The thing about a server based on nostalgia, is it seems to attract a type of person that is very idealistic and ungrounded in their thinking. What they really want is a server where they can play 4 hours 3 days a week and raid top targets. There is a game where you can do this...its called WoW. Or Perhaps the EZ server...idk.

Guy clearly knows more about there server after two months then folks playing on here for years. Just ask him, he will tell you!

[feanan]

Yeah, wow, you've got a lot of opinions for your whole 2 months here.

You sound like you headed for TMO with that attitude.

[LiQuid]

Also correct me if I'm wrong but Gore doesn't drop any epic pieces that TMO can sell back to the community for 300k+ a pop. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by LiQuid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also correct me if I'm wrong but Gore doesn't drop any epic pieces that TMO can sell back to the community for 300k+ a pop. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Surely one member on one of their 6 alts (that each player has) can use Gore drops.

[LiQuid]

You're being silly if you think a lot of players (not even just the ones in TMO) don't have a fleet of high level characters, many of which stay parked at highly contested raid targets as well. This server is old, the content is stagnant, and getting to 60 isn't that difficult. Plus the amount of account buying/selling that goes on makes it incredibly easy to just buy alts for raiding.

More to the point though, Gore is not highly contested because it's a difficult kill and the drops aren't great. You can't use Gore as a comparable to other high end raid targets.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by LiQuid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're being silly if you think a lot of players (not even just the ones in TMO) don't have a fleet of high level characters, many of which stay parked at highly contested raid targets as well. This server is old, the content is stagnant, and getting to 60 isn't that difficult. Plus the amount of account buying/selling that goes on makes it incredibly easy to just buy alts for raiding.

More to the point though, Gore is not highly contested because it's a difficult kill and the drops aren't great. You can't use Gore as a comparable to other high end raid targets.

RBB, White Dragon Scales, Hierophant`s Crook, DHB...yea what a bunch of crap that doesn't sell. What a great testimony to your veteran server knowledge (all it takes it a wiki search bro). And given that Gore is down the day it spawns, it clearly is contested.
I have no doubt that there are many TMO members (but not all) that have several alts. I just simply call BS on the story about full raid forces of alts camped at every raid target. Maybe they T-Staff naggy like on my old server, [or check a few other easy targets every 3-4 hours..otherwise, I'll believe it when I see it.
All of which is beside the point. Which is that top raid guilds have always dominated most the top content. That is what EQ was until instancing. There is nothing especially greedy about TMO from what I've seen. The only thing different about p1999 from live, is the time between expansions. If the server was Luclin era, people would be bitching about TMO alts camping AoW for cash between their VT raids. If TMO didn't exist it would FE or some other guild. If no guild locked down Kurnark dragons (whether this era or any other till post GoD), than some group of players would regardless.
These complaints are about causal vs dedicated players..nothing more.

[LiQuid]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

RBB, White Dragon Scales, Hierophant`s Crook, DHB...yea what a bunch of crap that doesn't sell. What a great testimony to your veteran server knowledge (all it takes it a wiki search bro).

I know what Gore drops, dum dum. None of that stuff is an epic drop that can be banked and/or ransomed off for a 300k+ pay off. There are epics in this game that are almost completely bottlenecked by the "dedicated players." How many Necro/Mage/Wiz/Ranger epics have you see in your 2 whole months on P99? I personally see drastically less on P99 than there were during the Kunark->Velious time frame on Live, regardless of the fact that this content has been stagnant for years and the mobs that drop those items could be easily dispatched by casual guilds if they didn't have to fight trains, poopsocks and pre-parked alt armies to get them. If one or two "dedicated" guilds didn't have a bottleneck on this stuff, those epics would by realistically obtainable by way more people than just the population of TMO and FE.