stop bringing up the founding fathers in gun arguments

[Vellatri]

Maybe Lexical got hung up on different possible definitions of "automatic." My state also allows open carry of all legally owned guns.

[Lexical]

TEXAS IS THE ONLY STATE THAT MATTERS GOD DAMN IT! PISS OFF YA YANKS!

[vaylorie]

Since criminals follow the laws, instead of going after the guns, we should just make a law that says performing mass shootings is illegal. If we couple that with imaginary lines around places that we don't want guns to be (we could call them gun-free zones), this should solve all of the issues.

Seems like an open and shut case for more legislation. Call your representatives!

On an unrelated note, of the 62 mass shootings that were recorded since the early 80's, semi-automatic rifles were used 9 times (handguns were used 41 times). Also unrelated, 94% of the shooters were either confirmed or showed signs of mental illness. I think there is clear evidence that guns make people mentally ill therefore I propose a ban on mental illness.

You can take action! (think of the poor kids) Call your representatives to put a stop to mental illness!

[gloine36]

http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp
There ya go. You're refuted. I'm amazed at the stupidity of the gun nuts when it comes to their ignorance. Let me explain it gently. You're outnumbered. I don't give a fuck how many guns you own. Gun control is legal and is going to happen whether you like it or not. You can scream, bitch, holler, or pee down your leg about it, but it will happen. If you choose to be a criminal then you can go to jail.
If you want to see more little kids get massacred then keep going on with the mantra of more guns. People like you are the problem and the reason for the gun culture in this country.

[vaylorie]

Originally Posted by gloine36 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't give a fuck how many guns you own. Some Gun control is legal and is going to happen whether you like it or not.

There you go smart guy. Fixed that for you.

[Lexical]

Originally Posted by gloine36 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp
There ya go. You're refuted. I'm amazed at the stupidity of the gun nuts when it comes to their ignorance. Let me explain it gently. You're outnumbered. I don't give a fuck how many guns you own. Gun control is legal and is going to happen whether you like it or not. You can scream, bitch, holler, or pee down your leg about it, but it will happen. If you choose to be a criminal then you can go to jail.
If you want to see more little kids get massacred then keep going on with the mantra of more guns. People like you are the problem and the reason for the gun culture in this country.

Originally Posted by ArticleLinked

And no matter what the outcome of that analysis, the results aren't necessarily applicable to the USA, where laws regarding gun ownership are (and always have been) much different than those in Australia.

Now who was refuted? You really should read your sources before you post though.

[Vellatri]

Originally Posted by gloine36 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp
There ya go. You're refuted.

Originally Posted by Vellatri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course you didn't provide specifics. You can't, because Snopes didn't refute any of the points I listed.

You might want to actually try reading your own link, and compare its points with the ones I listed here. None of it was refuted.

Even if it was, I actually went to the primary sources. (You did read what I wrote, right? You didn't just see, "Australia blah blah guns blah blah." Right?) Snopes is only a secondary source.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Vellatri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You might want to actually try reading your own link, and compare its points with the ones I listed here. None of it was refuted.

Even if it was, I actually went to the primary sources. (You did read what I wrote, right? You didn't just see, "Australia blah blah guns blah blah." Right?) Snopes is only a secondary source.

I wasn't talking about Snopes, lol.

And I'm right there with ya on gun violence. I was talking about mass shootings. People keep putting me on the wrong position on things...I agree that there's not any statistical evidence pointing to a decrease in overall gun violence when assault weapons are banned.

I said that there is clear evidence mass shootings can be virtually eliminated when you ban assault style weapons.

Big difference. I don't want to dig for whatever article that was atm, lol. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Vellatri]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I wasn't talking about Snopes, lol.

What? My statement was directed at gloine, not you. He was talking about Snopes.

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I said that there is clear evidence mass shootings can be virtually eliminated when you ban assault style weapons.

Australia provides a small, statistically inadequate sample. Even so, it just gets back to the point that decreasing only some types of attacks is worthless if overall murder/violence increases.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Vellatri [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What? My statement was directed at gloine, not you. He was talking about Snopes.


Australia provides a small, statistically inadequate sample. Even so, it just gets back to the point that decreasing only some types of attacks is worthless if overall murder/violence increases.

who cares that murder/violence has risen 300%, gun violence has now fallen 40%!!!!!!!!