2025 new p99 Gold server

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Talonfury9 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody plays TAKP anymore and quarm still has less players than p99 blue and green combined. The heroes journey has a ton of players, nearly half the total number of daybreak's everquest live total daily average player base but not everyone wants to play a custom everquest. I played it and it was definitely fun but it is not what i am going to invest my time into for the long run and i think most the people there would also leave for a new P99 server regardless if velious locked or PoP locked. P99 with a server that does unlock luclin and PoP would bring all walks of life everquest players to P99. P99 has been the greatest servers. I even enjoyed P99 when it had all the bugs back in 2009. A new P99 server that only goes to velious would still be the greatest server yet imo, but if luclin and PoP is guaranteed for later, it would be the best of the best of all times.

Again, they are contractually prohibited from going past Velious. Don't think anyone wants to have them breach the contract and have their permission to operate P99 revoked.

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Workaround: Go backwards in Norrath's timeline, so it predates classic, and release that as custom content.

That would be cool. And I believe Rogean/Nilbog have at some stage said custom content wouldn't violate the agreement, so maybe it's possible to do if they wanted to put in the large amount of time

[Skyking]

Again, that document doesn't mean shit.

it was two acquisitions ago, that document daybreak signed won't protect p99 if Enad Global 7 decided today to shut the project down by sending letters that cost elf lawyer bucks, it's a publicly traded company in Helsinki, all a shareholder has to do is raise concerns about this place as a loss of revenue and it's in the companies legally binding fiduciary responsibility to stop the ip theft, people worried about post velious and custom when they should be worried about losing access to playing for free at all.

[Goregasmic]

They're still patching shit that's not classic to this day. I don't think you guys realize how much of a colossal effort it would be to make an era accurate luclin/POP when a lot of you doubt their heart is still into p99 at all.

I'm not against it, I just don't think it is happening even if the agreement let them. Hell we're not even sure we're ever getting a new velious server even if they already have that part figured out.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They're still patching shit that's not classic to this day. I don't think you guys realize how much of a colossal effort it would be to make an era accurate luclin/POP when a lot of you doubt their heart is still into p99 at all.

I'm not against it, I just don't think it is happening even if the agreement let them. Hell we're not even sure we're ever getting a new velious server even if they already have that part figured out.

How can you make it seem so complicated? They just gotta enabled Luclin, dummy(!) (:

[cd288]

Originally Posted by Skyking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, that document doesn't mean shit.

it was two acquisitions ago, that document daybreak signed won't protect p99 if Enad Global 7 decided today to shut the project down by sending letters that cost elf lawyer bucks, it's a publicly traded company in Helsinki, all a shareholder has to do is raise concerns about this place as a loss of revenue and it's in the companies legally binding fiduciary responsibility to stop the ip theft, people worried about post velious and custom when they should be worried about losing access to playing for free at all.

Love when non-lawyers try to tell me (who is a lawyer) what a contract does and doesn't mean lol. In particular, I'm an attorney who has dealt with tons of corporate transactions, from IP sales to mergers and acquisitions.

I've said this to other people on these forums (possibly you, since your new ban evasion account has a writing style/cadence that's very similar to someone else I've had this discussion with who I believe got banned). Contracts have language in them that says the terms are binding on successors and assigns, including unaffiliated successors/assigns. So when Daybreak sold the IP, the purchaser would've been made aware of the contract during the sale transaction and that it would be bound by the terms. As a result, if they tried to just revoke the contract for no reason, P99 would almost certainly be able to win a case claiming promissory estoppel, breach of contract, etc. Like...you wouldn't even get past the initial motion to dismiss stage. It would be tossed out and P99 would win.

So yeah the contract does mean shit. And it's why P99 wouldn't go and, say, add PoP to the server. Because then the current IP holder could claim breach of contract and revoke the deal.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Skyking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again, that document doesn't mean shit.

it was two acquisitions ago, that document daybreak signed won't protect p99 if Enad Global 7 decided today to shut the project down by sending letters that cost elf lawyer bucks, it's a publicly traded company in Helsinki, all a shareholder has to do is raise concerns about this place as a loss of revenue and it's in the companies legally binding fiduciary responsibility to stop the ip theft, people worried about post velious and custom when they should be worried about losing access to playing for free at all.

Doesn't the concept of shares or owning shares go back to piracy anyway?

The quartermaster gets an extra 1/4 share of the plunder.

[Reiwa]

Sweden? 🤨

[Skyking]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Love when non-lawyers try to tell me (who is a lawyer) what a contract does and doesn't mean lol. In particular, I'm an attorney who has dealt with tons of corporate transactions, from IP sales to mergers and acquisitions.

I've said this to other people on these forums (possibly you, since your new ban evasion account has a writing style/cadence that's very similar to someone else I've had this discussion with who I believe got banned). Contracts have language in them that says the terms are binding on successors and assigns, including unaffiliated successors/assigns. So when Daybreak sold the IP, the purchaser would've been made aware of the contract during the sale transaction and that it would be bound by the terms. As a result, if they tried to just revoke the contract for no reason, P99 would almost certainly be able to win a case claiming promissory estoppel, breach of contract, etc. Like...you wouldn't even get past the initial motion to dismiss stage. It would be tossed out and P99 would win.

So yeah the contract does mean shit. And it's why P99 wouldn't go and, say, add PoP to the server. Because then the current IP holder could claim breach of contract and revoke the deal.

this has boomer divorce attorney in Texas vibes

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by Skyking [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this has boomer divorce attorney in Texas vibes

This has strong suburban karen who got caught making up bullshit vibes.