<ST> cucking out of Green99 due to Kingdom taking their merbz

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's fact. The gameplay mechanics and PnP are clear on P99. Just like the gameplay mechanics and PnP are clear on GTA and CoD. You can play the game and read the PnP. Please show me a video of the gameplay disproving this, or an excerpt from the PnP that says you can't wake the Sleeper.

Nope

Just your opinion. Again, you are trying to be the overlord of what the definition of a dick move is and trying to conflate human behavior with game mechanics

I told you pages ago you were digging a hole and you're now halfway to China

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nope

Just your opinion. Again, you are trying to be the overlord of what the definition of a dick move is and trying to conflate human behavior with game mechanics

I told you pages ago you were digging a hole and you're now halfway to China

Please come back when you have some evidence to back up your claims. So far I have the P99 game mechanics and the PnP backing me up, while you have nothing. You are going back in to timeout.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People play video games for all sorts of reasons. One of the reasons is they get to do things in a game that they can't do in real life, because there aren't consequences.

Do you think anybody who plays Grand Theft Auto is a sociopath, because they ran someone over with a car? Of course not, they are doing it in Grand Theft Auto because it allows them to play out fantasies that most people realistically have, without actually hurting people.

Well I can say most people probably don't have fantasies about running people over and shooting up neighborhoods and use games like GTA to fulfill them.

But they're also not doing it to other players and negatively impacting their own gaming experiences. GTA is about shooting up the AI. There isn't someone on the other end that has to deal with the fact you just ran him over.

A better example would be playing on Everquest red servers. You will see all kinds of sociopathic behavior. Douchebaggery is the name of the game on a red server. It was back in the old days and it still is now. I'm not saying the players are sociopaths (some almost certainly are though lol) but the behavior is. Basically if you can ruin someone's play time on red, you do it. They're camping somewhere out of the way? Kill them. They're kiting in an unpopulated zone like Rathe Mountains? Kill them. They're putting up a good fight? Bring your friends, kill them then laugh and taunt them. Someone asking for help in chat? Taunt them then maybe hunt them down and kill them. Sociopathic all around.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I can say most people probably don't have fantasies about running people over and shooting up neighborhoods and use games like GTA to fulfill them.

But they're also not doing it to other players and negatively impacting their own gaming experiences. GTA is about shooting up the AI. There isn't someone on the other end that has to deal with the fact you just ran him over.

A better example would be playing on Everquest red servers. You will see all kinds of sociopathic behavior. Douchebaggery is the name of the game on a red server. It was back in the old days and it still is now. I'm not saying the players are sociopaths (some almost certainly are though lol) but the behavior is. Basically if you can ruin someone's play time on red, you do it. They're camping somewhere out of the way? Kill them. They're kiting in an unpopulated zone like Rathe Mountains? Kill them. They're putting up a good fight? Bring your friends, kill them then laugh and taunt them. Someone asking for help in chat? Taunt them then maybe hunt them down and kill them. Sociopathic all around.

Why do you think people play GTA? On some level they want to experience criminal activities without the consequence. Otherwise GTA wouldn't be a popular game.

PvP servers are a bad example, because yet again you opt in to play them[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Nobody is forcing you to play Red. If you don't know what PvP means after you opt in, that is honestly your problem, not the game's problem.

[MrSparkle001]

Oh I just remembered there is a GTA Online. I don't know a thing about it. I can imagine it's a pretty sociopathic experience though.

I've also heard stories about Red Dead Online. Between hacking and people running around murdering others it also sounds like a sociopath's wet dream.

But I don't know what the ingame consequences are of being killed by another. In a game like CoD or Battlefield it's nothing, just a part of the game. In a game like Escape From Tarkov you lose your items right? I don't know what GTA and Red Dead do.

I would say if GTA Online players behave at all like the single player GTA players it's a serious shitshow of douchebaggery everywhere lol.

[gkmarino]

On Red99 I was camping SRO for the AC for my Jboots on my lvl 48 monk. I was there for hours as it wasn't until the 9th night that it spawned. I killed it and was able to loot the Ancient Ring. One minute later a wizard sent me a tell, saying I was invis and could have blown you to pieces, but didn't want to ruin your day. So yes that Red99 player is better than Seal Team.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by gkmarino [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On Red99 I was camping SRO for the AC for my Jboots on my lvl 48 monk. I was there for hours as it wasn't until the 9th night that it spawned. I killed it and was able to loot the Ancient Ring. One minute later a wizard sent me a tell, saying I was invis and could have blown you to pieces, but didn't want to ruin your day. So yes that Red99 player is better than Seal Team.

A non-sociopath on Red99? I don't believe you.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A non-sociopath on Red99? I don't believe you.

It's not sociopathic to play Red. You opt in to the server, and know it is PvP before you play. If you don't like PvP, don't play Red.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not sociopathic to play Red. You opt in to the server, and know it is PvP before you play. If you don't like PvP, don't play Red.

It doesn't have to be sociopathic but for some people it seems that's exactly what it's about.

I don't even remember what we were originally talking about.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It doesn't have to be sociopathic but for some people it seems that's exactly what it's about.

I don't even remember what we were originally talking about.

Yes, but again the question is who cares? You opted in to play a PvP server. Nobody is forcing you to play a video game. Nobody is forcing you to play a video game you don't like.

It doesn't matter if the person killing you is a sociopath or the Pope, you agreed to it lol. You opted in to playing a game where random people can kill you at any time, for any reason.