Nice France terrorist attack

[maskedmelon]

So,

1. How does one refer to a false god like Zeus in Arabic? Fake Allah? Or different word?

2. If true, this would mean Lune is God of Muslims. I think this is a good thing.

[MrSparkle001]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A few buddy?

Heres just one Catholic organization that preaches exactly the doctrine I spoke of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_Dei

100,000 strong (actual figure is classified again and secret as of 2009ish), many of which are in powerful positions within the Church (many clergy, many priests, even some bishops) and spread and promote their agenda. I'd say a total of at least 200 million are affected by this faction's doctrine alone world wide.

They are the Catholic Church and have standing and recognition within the Church.

Bad fucking analogy with the Westboro Baptist Church. Fucking bad. Not even remotely close.

P.S. When I say "even some bishops" its not just a few..



I can't even care to count them. Over 30 bishops of the Catholic Church. Yeah, I'll stick with my 200 million figure as a reach that this doctrine has.

You are being incredibly ignorant and naïve here. Try doing some actual research and reading and get some facts before speaking about something you are apparently clueless on.

I am catholic, so is my family and an awful lot of people in this area. Not once have I met someone who practiced self whipping or cutting. Not once.

Opus Dei and self whipping aren't synonymous either you know.

Where do people get these ideas anyway?

BTW, I'm of the belief that the roman catholic and greek orthodox churches are the only two true churches, along with (to a point) the anglican church which split from rome but can otherwise trace most of if not all of their ordinations back to the founding of the christian church, and some of the other ancient sects in the near and far east. All these other churches grew out of the squabbling of people who all thought they had the correct interpretation of the bible after the Reformation. Crazily some still have grudges against catholics today. I hear that nonsense a lot.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am catholic, so is my family and an awful lot of people in this area. Not once have I met someone who practiced self whipping or cutting. Not once.

Opus Dei and self whipping aren't synonymous either you know.

Where do people get these ideas anyway?

BTW, I'm of the belief that the roman catholic and greek orthodox churches are the only two true churches, along with (to a point) the anglican church which split from rome but can otherwise trace most of if not all of their ordinations back to the founding of the christian church, and some of the other ancient sects in the near and far east. All these other churches grew out of the squabbling of people who all thought they had the correct interpretation of the bible after the Reformation. Crazily some still have grudges against catholics today. I hear that nonsense a lot.

oh wow a catholic is up his own butt about dogmatic purity

never seen that before!

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am catholic, so is my family and an awful lot of people in this area. Not once have I met someone who practiced self whipping or cutting. Not once.

Opus Dei and self whipping aren't synonymous either you know.

Where do people get these ideas anyway?

BTW, I'm of the belief that the roman catholic and greek orthodox churches are the only two true churches, along with (to a point) the anglican church which split from rome but can otherwise trace most of if not all of their ordinations back to the founding of the christian church, and some of the other ancient sects in the near and far east. All these other churches grew out of the squabbling of people who all thought they had the correct interpretation of the bible after the Reformation. Crazily some still have grudges against catholics today. I hear that nonsense a lot.

Not to derail our bashing of terrorists and radical islam (or any islam for that matter), but one need only look at the religious writing found right in the Bible to find the origins of the "Christian church."

Spoiler: it didn't have shit to do with Rome, men dressed like women, twiddling prayer beads, diddling kids, or worshiping the mother goddess aka Queen of Heaven (now referred to as Mary > previously Juno, Hestia, and a dozen other names across many cultures back to Isis in Egypt).

[Saludeen]

Originally Posted by R Flair [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, it most certainly doesn't. Do a little reading you ignorant cuck. Allah was the name of A god before "Islam" ever came about. The equivocation with God of the Bible is a modern thing.

You're pretty desperate to deny Arabic bibles lol.
How does an Arabic speaker say God then?
It makes no difference whether we say God or Allah except that Arabic is more beautiful than English.

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
41:37 And from among His signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Do not prostrate to the sun, nor the moon; you shall prostrate to God who has created them, if it is truly Him you serve.

25:2 The One to whom belongs the sovereignty of the heavens and the earth, and He did not take a son, and He does not have any partner in kingship. And He created everything and measured it precisely.

43:87 And if you asked them who has created them, they would say, "God." Why then do they deviate?

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by Saludeen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're pretty desperate to deny Arabic bibles lol.
How does an Arabic speaker say God then?
It makes no difference whether we say God or Allah except that Arabic is more beautiful than English.

An arab speaker says allah. allah is properly translated as allah in english. Only the ignorant or those with an agenda would try to equate allah with God. allah and the God of the Bible are two different entities because things that are different are not the same.

[Ahldagor]

And there's been an inadvertent display of the weak power of naming. Y'all have come a long way in this thread.

[maskedmelon]

Sal,

What is the word for fake or other gods in Arabic? Like Aphrodite or Baal or Loki.

[Saludeen]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sal,

What is the word for fake or other gods in Arabic? Like Aphrodite or Baal or Loki.

ilaha - إله

One of the most important declarations in Islam is "la ilaha illallah" - there is no god but God - لا إله إلا الله

[Nihilist_santa]

Question for Saludeen. I was a Baha'i for some time but fell out with that group for several reasons but the primary one being that they claimed all of these prophets from various religions were different manifestations of the same god (usual syncretic BS) but they ignored the many contradictions of those "divine manifestations". I always wondered the same about Islam. It claims to honor Jesus/Isa as a prophet but ignores all of the messages Jesus/Isa spoke (his attributed words contradict many of Islams). How do you reconcile a belief in Jesus/Isa's teachings with the fact they contradict what Muhammad claimed?