Are you kidding me?

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

to clarify my second point, if we want a completely organic non-GM structured raid fight, it would like this:

No Variance

Damage racing each mob at the spawn point

Training each other

Nice and lazziez-faire for you all. I'll tell you one thing, there would be a guild emerging that makes us all look like disorganized casuals.

No there wouldn't. We would all train each other until a full blown rotation was born. Every one of these raid guilds have blade stoppers, prayers of life, etc. We could certainly send two teams of monks with aggro clicks to ensure every mob in north ends up in the camp of anyone killing on someone else's day. In fact the entire server would probably work to ensure it.

It's the reverse scenario of the player made rotation we once had here. Any guild that tried to hard ball the rotation would get the training parade of a life time from all the others. In fact it only takes one guild with competent trainers with clicks to want a rotation and the others guilds have to comply. That or it's a war of attrition.

Some servers allowed that on live. Player made rules enforced by players who had the power to train each other legally.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No there wouldn't. We would all train each other until a full blown rotation was born. Every one of these raid guilds have blade stoppers, prayers of life, etc. We could certainly send two teams of monks with aggro clicks to ensure every mob in north ends up in the camp of anyone killing on someone else's day. In fact the entire server would probably work to ensure it.

It's the reverse scenario of the player made rotation we once had here. Any guild that tried to hard ball the rotation would get the training parade of a life time from all the others. In fact it only takes one guild with competent trainers with clicks to want a rotation and the others guilds have to comply. That or it's a war of attrition.

Some servers allowed that on live. Player made rules enforced by players who had the power to train each other legally.

5/5, I now see why you were elected Mayor.

[Cecily]

Or you could make intentional training illegal? Maybe clear to mobs. I know that's radical thinking.

[Skew]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or you could make intentional training illegal? Maybe clear to mobs. I know that's radical thinking.

You make one good point and one terrible point.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or you could make intentional training illegal? Maybe clear to mobs. I know that's radical thinking.

The reason they don't do that is because its impossible to enforce no leapfrogging. So we just end up with leapfrog 99. It wouldn't be a lot different than tracker FTEing except the rest of the guild is there to watch when it goes down (and has to clear to the mob).

[Raev]

EQ simply wasn't designed for guilds to compete against each other. It's that simple.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EQ simply wasn't designed for guilds to compete against each other. It's that simple.

You're right, 1 guild of 600-700 people ought to solve it.

[Mistle]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're right, 1 guild of 600-700 people ought to solve it.

In a way, Test when it still worked as a regular server (no transfers) DID do it this way. It wasn't quite 600 people, but it was a couple hundred. The whole server ran a DKP system. However, we had Luclin and PoP by then.

[JurisDictum]

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You seemed to take me pointing out that A/A was more committed than other guilds currently as a personal insult.

[jcr4990]

As dumb as Unbrella is sometimes he's mostly right in his last 2 posts