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Old 10-23-2015, 02:34 PM
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And since you can cog straight to hatching, you don't have to pull anything, or you shouldnt
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Old 10-23-2015, 02:45 PM
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Don't worry guys Velious will solve everything.
Lol now with Velious out we really see how much 5 years of Kunark, 2 solid years of a Chardok AOE machine, variance, and the proliferation of the number of "raid" guilds has completely fucked this server beyond belief.

The server staff is very short staffed and they do a remarkable job with P99 despite their lack of human resources. I am grateful that this game is free (which is why I play) and that I can log into Norrath with friends and adventure and kill mobs whenever I want.

We can blame a small population of this server which has become the hegemony that has completely fucking ruined the "fun" of this game. 5 years of one expansion plus players with online videogame addiction and running RMT AOE rackets is a recipe for disaster. The top end population of this server has exploded and it has created tons of "raid" guilds with countless AOE powerleveled alts. They all "follow the leader" and the precedent that has been set in order to "raid" and "be a guild member" has gone completely off the tracks and it is an absolute train wreck.

TL[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]R this server fucking sucks thanks to a very small percentage of online video game addicts that really have been fucking up this server for years. Very few of us acknowledged this early, most of us came to the server too late to even realize what has happened. I have had many personal interactions with all the "top dog" players on this server and have personally told many of them to go fuck themselves. Once you free yourself from the pixel shackles you will see. Until then have fun jumping through flaming hoops for a bunch of assholes just go get pixels that don't even fucking matter.
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Old 10-23-2015, 02:50 PM
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Whatever happened to just fighting apart as his spot? I know on live we coh'd right in front of him. Just had to kill the green con mini's, took me a lot of deaths to find the spot but skips everything and no trains. Easy peasy
What Manowarr said.

On live, where most servers had either a rotation or a "first in force" atmosphere (if not a rule), guilds that had designs on killing a target rarely had to worry about another guild running past them to engage it while they killed trash.

In your scenario on P99, you CoTH your raid to the target and pull the trash or two around the boss. The moment the trash aggros you, another guild will tag the boss and run away with it.

On P99, guilds can't kill trash, they have to train it away, kite it, or just deal with it while they kill the boss.

It got this way because 200 people would sit on target spawns and insta-gib targets. The staff, correctly I think, didn't like this. So they made a rule that you couldn't be past IZ when a target spawns or you'd be DQ'd from engaging the mob. The guild that gets aggro first gets the mob, which seems like a logical idea, but it creates a system where no one wants to kill trash because the second the boss is alone, another guild will tag it.

Personally, I think raid targets should be treated like literally every other static spawn in the game. They're just big camps. You have to have a force there strong enough to kill the target, and as long as you have that force there, no one else can come in and take your mob.

Both take staff intervention to enforce, and switching to FIF would have some growing pains of course.

The difference is, with FIF, the target is claimed in a peaceful train-free IZ, rather than people frapsing trash trains and fighting about who trained who and whether a pull is a train or whatever.
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Old 10-23-2015, 02:51 PM
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Most of us operate outside the realm of BDA logic though so maybe youre just having trouble conceptualizing the issues? Maybe I could draw you a diagram or a map or something?
For one, you should not put words in others mouths. Second, I highly doubt you can draw anything since you can't even come up with a solution to the ToV pulling.

and, it's you're*

and, you mean visualizing, not conceptualizing. The conception is already out there and even Detoxx, surprisingly understands the conception. Visualizing the solution is the issue.

dictionary.com much bro?

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Old 10-23-2015, 03:08 PM
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Did you just go straight grammar cop while dropping in an "understands the conception" ?

Sigh.
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Old 10-23-2015, 03:11 PM
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ugh....I am saying that everyone understands the conception. The issue is visualization of the solution.
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Old 10-23-2015, 03:13 PM
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Concept
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Old 10-23-2015, 03:13 PM
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o i am laffin
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Old 10-23-2015, 03:17 PM
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[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] You are not supposed to help them. geez
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Old 10-23-2015, 03:29 PM
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do you do this shit on purpose dafier
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