Raid Suspension: The Mystical Order

[Pringles]

Originally Posted by Sajan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Juevento]

My problem with dkp is that I don't want to play with people who have to be incentivized to show up to shit by being awarded points to be turned in for future loot.

I want to play with people who I genuinely like and respect and who reciprocate that feeling. If you are in BDA, you are part of the family. We'll support you with whatever you want to do. I don't want to be in a guild with people who's only goal in game is to get the best loot possible. That's not our style. I personally couldn't give two shits if I ever got another piece of loot. I love showing up and killing dragons with cool people and seeing them get the new shiny thing.

Hell, we had 30 people show up for a Stanos head farm a few weeks back and most were there for 6+ hours. We didn't need to be awarded dkp to do that. We do stuff like that because we are a very tight knit group and like hanging out together.

[quido]

retards find strength in numbers

[Locust]

Originally Posted by ManosMan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^^^Head scratching loot distribution system. Do yourselves a favor and start keeping track of things. I'm sure there have never been any mistakes in rewarding loot based off using only your memory... right? Do you guys do zero drugs or something?

hey look! it's the anonymous butthurt newbie who allegedly got his mid 20s exp camp stolen by someone in BDA. you're obsessed bro, and ignorant. learn to let go.

[ManosMan]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't want to be in a guild with people who's only goal in game is to get the best loot possible.

It's interesting because it always seems to come down to the belief that people who are after DKP or attendance tracking have the singular goal of getting all the best loot. When I designed a very basic system in WoW (just tallied hours people spent) it was for a couple reasons, but mostly just to have solid information somewhere. So people with high attendance would know that I, and everyone else in the guild above or below knew it. 100%'ers could look at that 100% and epeen the bottom of their desks. Trials can see themselves becoming raiders. Best of all, when Santa comes around with his loot sleigh the people deciding who gets what have all this info at their fingertips.

Seriously. It's like you guys are against having transparency and extra info...

Originally Posted by Locust [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hey look! it's the anonymous butthurt newbie who allegedly got his mid 20s exp camp stolen by someone in BDA. you're obsessed bro, and ignorant. learn to let go.

Actually he played the 'better man' and logged after waiting about half an hour for a GM to answer his petition. You do realize I only relayed that story at the end of my post because I recognize the extreme reaction to something that didn't and doesn't matter and I find it humorous? This is rants and flames, idiot. You'll pay forever for that one mistake.

PS, if you chodes could do ANY work whatsoever you could find out who I am pretty easily based off the story I told. Like I am really trying that hard to remain anon. If you aren't in a guild with 'dial' in the name I can honestly say I have never sent you a tell or went out of my way to talk to you. If you are in a guild with 'dial' in the name, you're welcome for your 50p flat rate donations and me always taking as little of your time as possible.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by ManosMan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are in a guild with 'dial' in the name, you're welcome for your 50p flat rate donations and me always taking as little of your time as possible.

Thanks sir

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by ManosMan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually he played the 'better man' and logged after waiting about half an hour for a GM to answer his petition.

at least he didn't go the TMO route and flagrantly train your ass with a deguilded alt

[Locust]

Originally Posted by ManosMan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's interesting because it always seems to come down to the belief that people who are after DKP or attendance tracking have the singular goal of getting all the best loot. When I designed a very basic system in WoW (just tallied hours people spent) it was for a couple reasons, but mostly just to have solid information somewhere. So people with high attendance would know that I, and everyone else in the guild above or below knew it. 100%'ers could look at that 100% and epeen the bottom of their desks. Trials can see themselves becoming raiders. Best of all, when Santa comes around with his loot sleigh the people deciding who gets what have all this info at their fingertips.

Seriously. It's like you guys are against having transparency and extra info...


Actually he played the 'better man' and logged after waiting about half an hour for a GM to answer his petition. You do realize I only relayed that story at the end of my post because I recognize the extreme reaction to something that didn't and doesn't matter and I find it humorous? This is rants and flames, idiot. You'll pay forever for that one mistake.

PS, if you chodes could do ANY work whatsoever you could find out who I am pretty easily based off the story I told. Like I am really trying that hard to remain anon. If you aren't in a guild with 'dial' in the name I can honestly say I have never sent you a tell or went out of my way to talk to you. If you are in a guild with 'dial' in the name, you're welcome for your 50p flat rate donations and me always taking as little of your time as possible.

imagine a world where some people like to enjoy things differently than you. imagine a world where an organization exists in contrast to your beliefs. this world is p99. this organization is BDA. we have been here a long time. we don't use dkp. get over it.

ps. no one cares about your wow server

[Bazia]

no dkp guilds tend to take advantage of higher playtime individuals whether it's intentional or not

if their cool with getting screwed over then more power to them but there is no good reason to not track raid attendance and use that as a factor when deciding loot

[ManosMan]

The only reason I bring up the WoW server is to demonstrate a minimal system. Is that DKP? No. It's keeping a simple tally of hours and posting it in a public place. I wouldn't suggest you start using DKP until you actually start killing dragons.