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[Swish]

Server down for maintenance at 10pm EST...is that bad?

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Locked in nektulos during the exp bonus. Aww yeah. As much as I want to play a new server, it isn't this one. This one is a broken piece of shit with almost 0 effort put into it.

[Bruman]

That shit is still broken? I hope it's fixed when I can play tonight. The server was down for all of primetime last night, then when it was briefly up, all I managed to do was to be the first person to realize Nek Forest was broken. Then other people got stuck. Then it went down again. Then it was still fucked. Then the zone was taken offline. Then I went to bed.

I can understand having issues, but how do simple things like teleporters and zonelines not get the kinks worked out? Note that you can get stuck in the tower in Paineel too (the teleport out doesn't work). And I know they know about it, Kegz had to retrieve me.

Being under a ticking exp bonus clock is just salt in the wound.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Bruman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can understand having issues, but how do simple things like teleporters and zonelines not get the kinks worked out? Note that you can get stuck in the tower in Paineel too (the teleport out doesn't work). And I know they know about it, Kegz had to retrieve me.

its called no beta testing.

and before all the fanboi's start, theres a difference between opening server a and calling it a beta or a beta test, and then actually going forward and actually beta testing the product.

from everything ive heard (and granted i dont play so i could be wrong), it seems lots of issues reported in "beta" still exist. people are allowed to 4 box (sorry, 2 people per connection are allowed to 2 box... lol).

no offense intended, but until their devs learn how to track MQ/SEQ as well as illegal boxing, this server will be a cesspool of kids that were banned from p99 for cheating. evidenced by the fact the person behind this server only created it because he was banned from p99.

sounds fun.

[Stinkum]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its called no beta testing.

and before all the fanboi's start, theres a difference between opening server a and calling it a beta or a beta test, and then actually going forward and actually beta testing the product.

from everything ive heard (and granted i dont play so i could be wrong), it seems lots of issues reported in "beta" still exist.

This describes the launch of R99 to incredibly accurately.

Not saying I disagree with you that this applies to The Sleeper though.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Stinkum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This describes the launch of R99 to incredibly accurately.

Not saying I disagree with you that this applies to The Sleeper though.

start a thread about R99, and ill share my thoughts on it as well. but ive stated many times what i think is wrong with R99.

and if you look at my post history from right before red opened (aug or sept 2011) you can even look up my pvp manifesto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Bruman]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

from everything ive heard (and granted i dont play so i could be wrong), it seems lots of issues reported in "beta" still exist.

Yeah, I've heard the same from a few friends who beta'd. The exp gain on beta was super high (on purpose), so the early stuff wasn't tested much. Some of it was reported, but most of the focus was apparently on tuning higher end dungeons and raid mobs. I've also heard that while it should now be functional, that the balance is probably still pretty far off (too easy / too hard). My guess is it'll be very exploitable too.

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

people are allowed to 4 box (sorry, 2 people per connection are allowed to 2 box... lol).

Meh, no different than people playing with their "girlfriend / wife" on P99. I'm sure you guys work to crack down on that, and I'm sure they will too.

I got an IP exemption and tried to get my wife to play a cleric, but she refused. Oh well.

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no offense intended, but until their devs learn how to track MQ/SEQ as well as illegal boxing, this server will be a cesspool of kids that were banned from p99 for cheating. evidenced by the fact the person behind this server only created it because he was banned from p99.

Depends on who you talk to. That's one story, the other story is that he was using MQ/SEQ to gather data to put into his own server, that he was already building. That also would go with the "Toop stole data/code from P99" (which obviously isn't true in the way that was intended, or else things would be in a LOT better shape on Sleeper, heh).

As far as "cesspool" of cheaters...that's a way off statement. Most of the people are just...people. Same as here. I'm sure some banned P99'ers will show up there, obviously. I guess they're given a chance to not do it again (or not get caught). Many of P99 top-end raiders are cheaters too, and P99 lost a lot of integrity when they weren't given the ban-hammer for it. Now they know P99 has the detection, so they do it on alt accounts and through proxies. It still happens.

Even then, it's all of matter of "which cesspool do you prefer"?

P99
-Miserable childish raid scene (I haven't been on the forums for a long time, for shits-and-giggles I dipped into RnF, same thing - every kill, there's a thread, and shitting on one another, trains, bickering, etc, the drama never ends or grows up)
-Very stale content (I think visibility into progress on Velious would help)
-Jacked twink-laden economy (top-end stuff is perma-camped and way too expensive for new people)
-Raid scene is only for the hardcorest of poopsockers and trainers
-We were told that variance would be shortened and we'd get simulated patch-day resets, instead variance was made longer
+Levels 1-59 content is very well done, and very Classic-like, if you can find a group
+Server is very stable
+Low/mid level gear is cheap

Sleeper
-Still in a rough beta, not fixing issues near fast enough
-Horrible, horrible, horrible forums
-Exp needs about a 30% boost
-Easier for cheaters to persist at this time
-A lot of downtime lately
+Fresh server
+Those "limited time" items are available, always fun
+2-boxing is a positive for most people
+New content (Warrens + Velious)

[Bruman]

Originally Posted by Cameron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You really are a fucking idiot aren't you. You'll fit right in among the trash players of The Sleeper, enjoy

This is an example of the bad attitude and immaturity a lot of P99 players have. Unfortunately it's also the most vocal type and can overshadow the good ones.

[feanan]

Bruman, nice post.

Cameron, why don't you keep that crap in RNF?

Mods, where are you?

[SamwiseRed]

i have bigger boobs than her