Vox PUG starting 6/14/10

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by Abacabb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well when you read over the same rules Modus posted, you also get lines like:

*The timer on the first guild starts when a second guild calls 30min.

* After timer starts you have the full 30min. Wipe as much as you want, let your numbers drop, etc.

* All calls are to be done in Shout so everyone in zone can see.

* The 30min timer is a timer to ENGAGE the mob. If the timer ends when a guild is actively fighting the raid mob the second guild cannot engage the mob until the first guild wipes or the mob resets (which would be from a wipe most likely)

Which because of the language only pertains the guild, we acknowledge that we have to have the force, we can't just two man this encounter, but we are not held accountable on all these calls and time limits... If we are there for the encounter, we're going for it.

Just keep thinking you aren't held accountable. You've already been banned at least 3 times I can think of you jackass. I'll be happy to add 4 to the list if you pull this garbage, along with anyone with you that chooses to follow your childish antics.

[Gorgetrapper]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not quite true.



Not that I don't applaud your efforts... I do. In fact, hell, good luck on the encounter! We almost lost it last time.

I'm just making sure that you are aware of the rules [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Umm, I read the server rules, and I don't find that information located there. However, (comma) I find that in the GUILD RAIDING RULES, which a PUG is not bound by.

Nice try though.

[Tudana]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not quite true.



Not that I don't applaud your efforts... I do. In fact, hell, good luck on the encounter! We almost lost it last time.

I'm just making sure that you are aware of the rules [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think he means those rules were set by Guild GMs and officers...PUGs dont have those kind of diplomats. So there for, the Rules set forth by the Guild meetings do not apply to a PUG.

PUGS are rebels without a cause. Bound by no rules set by a Guild summit

Good luck Abacab, I wished I could join you on this (I am only 43)

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by Tudana [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think he means those rules were set by Guild GMs and officers...PUGs dont have those kind of diplomats. So there for, the Rules set forth by the Guild meetings do not apply to a PUG.

PUGS are rebels without a cause. Bound by no rules set by a Guild summit

Good luck Abacab, I wished I could join you on this (I am only 43)

Unfortunately that is not the manner in which the rules were designed, implemented, and enforced.

Also, IB already killed Vox last night. Supposedly Abacab is camping Naggy. Whether or not he has the force to maintain claim, I'm not certain.

[Yoite]

I'll help out on Yoite, i dont get off work until 5pm CST though. Anyways, i will hit ya up when i get home and see whats going on.

[Aadill]

Going by your logic you'd still have to maintain the camp until Vox spawned and if you wiped your chance would be over; no second chances that is provided in that 30 minute window.

I'll nitpick if you nitpick.

As it stands with the rules you are picking apart: you have to maintain a camp of 15+ in zone until Vox spawns. Most likely another raid force will roll call you. Assuming you answer the roll call successfully, you will then have unlimited time to kill Vox. If you wipe, your chance is over.

[Abacabb]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Going by your logic you'd still have to maintain the camp until Vox spawned and if you wiped your chance would be over; no second chances that is provided in that 30 minute window.

I'll nitpick if you nitpick.

As it stands with the rules you are picking apart: you have to maintain a camp of 15+ in zone until Vox spawns. Most likely another raid force will roll call you. Assuming you answer the roll call successfully, you will then have unlimited time to kill Vox. If you wipe, your chance is over.

Just like live bro, just like live!

[girth]

What makes you think the guilds have to abide by those rules when dealing with a PUG force if you(the PUG force) claim to not have to?

Also since they let non guild tagged members count as members of raiding forces in those rules, they may claim this a guild raid with 99% pugs or something.

[Aadill]

Abacab: Considering a large portion of people that do raid know why you're doing this, there's a good chance no one is going to care about your antics either way.

No real need for a screenshot of it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Abacabb]

Originally Posted by Aadill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Abacab: Considering a large portion of people that do raid know why you're doing this, there's a good chance no one is going to care about your antics either way.

No real need for a screenshot of it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually bro, this is a pretty legit thing... I've gotten several reasons as to why people think this is just antics and they include the following:

"You just want to grief"

"You're mad because DA/IB wont guild you"

"Fucking Anarchist"

"You're like a unruly child who breaks things for attention"

"You're a narcissist"


Why can't I actually just post a raid and do it just to raid?