Phinigel Autropos

[Slave]

Originally Posted by Triangle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I question where you have tried this Catherin. I have actually tried to solo phinny and unfortunately this is not how his dispell works. Before the fight I junk buffed, HP buffed and resist buffed. As a shammy this meant I was around 12-13 buffs (leaving room for torpor etc). Upon engaging I had 0 buffs within 20 seconds. I understand that most every other mob that dispells works differently, but I can tell you that phinny is unique in this respect.

I think his dispell is a proc that happens everytime he attacks. Now what I don't know is whether the proc is aoe or not, and I do not think it is. Meaning if you somehow were to maintain agro on phinny and keep alive, your pet would be ok. The only class I can see soloing phinny is like a fantastically geared monk or warrior with puppet strings. Everyone else is either going to get the crap kicked out of them tanking phinny or will have their charm dispelled if they don't tank him.

Now as I wrote in the solo thread, on live mages could chain cast pets on phinny so long as they were able to time /pet back off to make phinny use his summon on the old pet before the new pet was cast. So like right before you new pet was about to be cast you would /pet back off, phinny would summon the old pet, and then once you kill the old pet phinny would run to you but would be met by your new pet.
However on p99, mages generate agro just by existing and phinny will not attack the new pet right away and will instead go straight at the mage. This is a bug of course and has been due to be fixed for awhile. So mages should have a chance to solo phinny but because of agro not being live-like, they are unable to here.

He's exactly right, in all paragraphs. Except the monk and warrior would be blown away by DPS, even with Soulfire. I think only a chain-clicking 60 Cleric with Donals BP, enormous amounts of hps and magic/cold resist with Puppet Strings has a chance, and they would have to be mind-blowingly lucky to never miss a channel or get interrupted by push.

Torpor = dispelled. Dead Shamans.
Charm = dispelled. Dead Enchanters and Stringers.

[Swish]

I wonder if he tires of seafood?

[-Catherin-]

Originally Posted by Triangle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I question where you have tried this Catherin. I have actually tried to solo phinny and unfortunately this is not how his dispell works. Before the fight I junk buffed, HP buffed and resist buffed. As a shammy this meant I was around 12-13 buffs (leaving room for torpor etc). Upon engaging I had 0 buffs within 20 seconds. I understand that most every other mob that dispells works differently, but I can tell you that phinny is unique in this respect.

I never once claimed i could solo phinny Triangle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I was giving advice on how to maintain a charmed pet on mobs like these with dispells. I understand this particular mob is a bit different than others too. You can manage some pretty creative things if you put your mind to it. While I would say a solo is pretty unlikely, i still think it possible.

Phinny its a trick of dealing with the shear amount of dispells. Ragefire is much easier when it comes to that, but then there is a problem with the fear. Can maintain a charmed pet super easily but it has low Mr to begin with and is feared most of the time. I havnt really figured out a way around that. if i could, i could duo with a cleric

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Phingel's dispell on a charmed pet is absolutely nothing you need to worry about. you just need to order your pets buffs appropriately so that your charm isnt at the top.

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at his first dispell he will drop your root. replace root with see invis and recast see invis every time he dispells so that he never makes it to your charm spell down near the bottom. Dead fish.

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Tried and True. done it on phingel

What you said made it sound like it is a simple thing to do, that it has been done, that it is a well-known and widely-used method, and possibly even that you had done it personally. The words in the quote above definitely do not mean "this is a way you can potentially kill some random mobs who dispel, but this probably won't work on Phinigel because of how often he dispels."

[-Catherin-]

point taken. i should know by now on these forums that everyone will pick apart the semantics of every statement made. I'll try to do better [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lexical]

Originally Posted by -Catherin- [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

point taken. i should know by now on these forums that everyone will pick apart the semantics of every statement made. I'll try to do better [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good! You are on thin ice, buster brown.

[tekniq]

big loraen....

he has pretty tough MR...you can land spells on him though.

i believe he dispells everytime he hits your pet, i don't think it's a recast. I found this out when my pet gets dispelled when i put DS on it.

he'll dispell your charm and then you'll die...i think it's impossible to charm a pet bc he will dispell it right away.

he has a magic/iced base spell, i think they do around 700-1000 dmg. not sure about the aoe though.

[Autotune]

your pet will get dispelled, unless you were somehow able to stack his MR up to 300 or so and still have him charmed, then you might get lucky and he resist the several times he is going to have the dispell cast on him during the fight.

He casts that pbaoe quite often and it has a decent size range, so even having to recharm once is going to spell disaster for you.

Because then you'll get summoned & dispelled and even if you manage to live long enough to recharm, he will still be beating on you and dispelling you.

[Triangle]

Originally Posted by tekniq [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

big loraen....

he has pretty tough MR...you can land spells on him though.

i believe he dispells everytime he hits your pet, i don't think it's a recast. I found this out when my pet gets dispelled when i put DS on it.

he'll dispell your charm and then you'll die...i think it's impossible to charm a pet bc he will dispell it right away.

he has a magic/iced base spell, i think they do around 700-1000 dmg. not sure about the aoe though.

Yep all this info is credited.

[Tecmos Deception]

Autotune doesn't know how great Loraen is [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]