Dark Ascension...phallax, quite the char

[eqholmes]

Its chill Loke some people are narrow minded and blame lots of people for ones auctions. I say we blame Cleopatra. LOUD NOSIES!

Ps. I love lamp

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was no situation untill Cazic created it. How can you "claim" a camp if you are not present in it? And elsewhere exping/PLing/farming in the zone? You cant.

Because as was stated, there was no one else vying for it.
The quoted section explained exactly how low to hold more than one camp provided there was no one else around. You didn't call the CC. had he known there was someone else interested in it, he would have sat there for it as far as I can tell. You didn't call the CC, so by the rules you didn't give him a chance to claim it as his. It doesn't matter if he wasn't clearing trash (that he didn't need to either I might add), and that he wasn't there.

I'm not saying I like the camp claiming rules, just saying that as they are written Phallax is in the wrong because he didn't give the CC to let the OP claim it.

I mean here's how *I* would have the camp rules: "You aren't there, you can't claim it". Simple as that. Unfortunately, the way the rules are written you need to courtesy CC it, which at times is sort of silly. I mean if you aren't there you shouldn't be able to hold it. That being said, there are some times when courtesy CCs are nice. If I go off to pity rez someone in the zone, come back and some asshole has stolen my camp because they didn't call a CC, I feel I am justifiably pissed (and yes I have that happen more often than you would think). My favourite place to farm is uguk. I farm it a lot. When I go there I run timers and could snag pretty every rare in the zone if I wanted to. If someone is already at a camp tho, or plops down on one of my timers tho, I don't care. I wasn't there, and don't hold a presence at a spot -- too bad for me.

[nicemace]

you shouldnt confuse the words courtesy and obligatory.

[braveheart]

I wasn't there because i was helping lowbies level... i had a level 38 ranger that was tracking for me when it popped and had a 45 rogue with me trying to help them level.

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by nicemace [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you shouldnt confuse the words courtesy and obligatory.

We still expect players to use the courtesy camp check before zerging a room

I'm not. It is both.

[Stepy]

Ugh my eyes are to old to read all the small purple text so i have a question.
Are you saying that if i fight my way to a camp and sit in the camp and wait for spawn that it's not mine unless i keep all the nearby guards cleared when it may not be necessary ?
If i am misunderstanding the SS i was trying to read just let me know.

[braveheart]

click on it stepy it zooms in and you will be enlightened

[nicemace]

i dont read expecting a courtesy as mandatory.

i expect some dude show courtesy and not steal my shoes. however, that is not always the case.

[braveheart]

in fact you shouldn't read anything in this thread, except that text, thats the whole point of this thread!

[astarothel]

Originally Posted by Stepy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ugh my eyes are to old to read all the small purple text so i have a question.
Are you saying that if i fight my way to a camp and sit in the camp and wait for spawn that it's not mine unless i keep all the nearby guards cleared when it may not be necessary ?
If i am misunderstanding the SS i was trying to read just let me know.

That's the claim. The camping rules however, mention nothing other than the need to engage the mob within a reasonable time after it spawns.

How you pull the camp is up to you, as long as you are able to engage the mobs very shortly after they are spawned.