It's official, Obama is coming after your guns - Page 3

SamwiseRed · #1 11-10-2012, 02:45 PM

its magic jk, well its designed to tumble once its penetrated the target. i was merely responding to the statement saying 5.56 is weak because it leaves pencil holes in the target. 5.56 will put someone down if used properly.

Arclyte · #2 11-10-2012, 02:46 PM

its garbage

SamwiseRed · #3 11-10-2012, 02:49 PM

learn to shoot better? its worked in combat zones for years. if it works on armed and trained terrorists i am sure itll take out the average low-life robber.

SamwiseRed · #4 11-10-2012, 02:57 PM

I am not certain on this but I think the main concern with Assualt Rifles is that they are easy to convert to fully auto. I have only handled a few so I am not sure if this goes for all of them but there are kits and/or methods to making the ones I have handled fully auto.

Autotune · #5 11-10-2012, 02:59 PM

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I am not certain on this but I think the main concern with Assualt Rifles is that they are easy to convert to fully auto. I have only handled a few so I am not sure if this goes for all of them but there are kits and/or methods to making the ones I have handled fully auto.

assault rifles, by definition, are already fully automatic.

assault weapons, used by the media, is a scare tactic

Edit: I should have said most are fully automatic, they can also have burst fire capabilities (which in my opinion is still a form of fully auto)

Hailto · #6 11-10-2012, 06:23 PM

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assault rifles, by definition, are already fully automatic.

assault weapons, used by the media, is a scare tactic

Edit: I should have said most are fully automatic, they can also have burst fire capabilities (which in my opinion is still a form of fully auto)

This is correct, now stop arguing you twats.

hatelore · #7 11-10-2012, 04:10 PM

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I am not certain on this but I think the main concern with Assualt Rifles is that they are easy to convert to fully auto. I have only handled a few so I am not sure if this goes for all of them but there are kits and/or methods to making the ones I have handled fully auto.

This is far from true, I have done gunsmithing for years and can assure you it isn't as easy to convert to fully auto as most people think. Take a ar 15 for instance, this requires an entirely new receiver to be fully automatic. Check out the difference between a fully automatic m-16 receiver and a semi automatic ar-15 receiver. They are nothing alike. Some guns like the mac-10 are able to be made fully automatic without a ton of work, but theirs a big difference between that and a ar-15 rifle. And I think we are sitting at what 80 million american's owning guns? The gubment of obama will have his hands full if he tries to tackle that task.

And before someone mentions it, yes I know about slidefire, but that is not fully automatic and is very hard control and be accurate since you cant shoot the rifle in its normal manner.

And the 223 round is okay, but its nothing to write home about. It carries a pretty decent trajectory for about 150 to 200 yards without a lot of drop, but its not a very large round. Its cheaper then most larger rifle rounds but it doesnt hold water to say a 7.62 round when it comes to effect and stopping power. Just my 2 cents.

SamwiseRed · #8 11-10-2012, 04:12 PM

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This is far from true, I have done gunsmithing for years and can assure you it isn't as easy to convert to fully auto as most people think. Take a ar 15 for instance, this requires an entirely new receiver to be fully automatic. Check out the difference between a fully automatic m-16 receiver and a semi automatic ar-15 receiver. They are nothing alike. Some guns like the mac-10 are able to be made fully automatic without a ton of work, but theirs a big difference between that and a ar-15 rifle. And I think we are sitting at what 80 million american's owning guns? The gubment of obama will have his hands full if he tries to tackle that task.

And before someone mentions it, yes I know about slidefire, but that is not fully automatic and is very hard control and be accurate since you cant shoot the rifle in its normal manner.

And the 223 round is okay, but its nothing to write home about. It carries a pretty decent trajectory for about 150 to 200 yards without a lot of drop, but its not a very large round. Its cheaper then most larger rifle rounds but it doesnt hold water to say a 7.62 round when it comes to effect and stopping power. Just my 2 cents.

ya sorry man, I didn't mean easy as in an idiot like tune could do it. I guess the better word for it would be accessible but even then I may be pushing it. What I am trying to say is that if someone really wants it to be fully auto, they can get it done.

SamwiseRed · #9 11-10-2012, 03:05 PM

None of the civilian AR-15s I've seen are fully auto. Doesn't mean its not an assault rifle.

Autotune · #10 11-10-2012, 03:10 PM

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None of the civilian AR-15s I've seen are fully auto. Doesn't mean its not an assault rifle.

If they don't have fully automatic or bust fire capabilities, it means they aren't an assault rifle. Stop being fucking stupid.