The Time is Near for a 3rd guild to rise - Page 3

Nimoorhs · #1 10-08-2012, 08:31 PM

unfortunately FoH has problems keeping 46+ members for obvious reasons. with no one really talking about getting members to raiding levels or any plan to keep what few members we have of level, it will be very difficult to make it to the raid scene. most likely 3rd guild will be a group of raiders that defect from either nih or rd and form a functional raid guild that will be another guild of toons that FoH has 'raised'

mostbitter · #2 10-08-2012, 08:40 PM

Chewie is forever under leveled, and the second highest member of the guild is punkin who also seems to have no desire to reach max level. Flowers seems content to talk to each other in guild chat while constantly rerolling new alts to harass leveling characters with. I think pigs will fly before they have any success as a guild.

Shrubwise · #3 10-08-2012, 08:42 PM

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I think pigs will fly before they have any success as a raiding guild.

Sorry for PvP'ing too much for ya'll here on this here PvP server ya'll.

heartbrand · #4 10-08-2012, 08:52 PM

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Sorry for PvP'ing too much for ya'll here on this here PvP server ya'll.

Here's the issue as I see it with being a PVP only guild on this server. Back @ release on this server with 200+ people there were tons of people to PVP, tons of little guilds, solo people in all zones, tons of fun grief and PVP to be had. The gear gap was small, and one did not need to poopsock to have fun. On the server now it's two guilds, if you're not in them you're underleveled, undergeared, and you're going to get zerged if you try to fight, otherwise you're in empty zones, which will only be worse in Velious. I have nothing against PVP for PVP, I'm just saying that this server is not the ideal place for such a philosophy and it ultimately leads to people either saying fuck it and joining RD or nihilum or quitting the server. But mad props to the FoH who stick around nonetheless.

heartbrand · #5 10-08-2012, 08:41 PM

There's not even enough people for two guilds nonetheless three. Yes, in an ideal world three, four, five etc., would be awesome and exciting, but it's just not the reality on the ground at the moment. This is a two guild server when it comes to the raid scene at the moment, any attempt to make a third would likely be people breaking off not within nihilum and just serve to further fragment the opposition leading to nihilum keeping an iron fist on raid mobs. But ya, in an ideal world would be awesome to have more than two.

Tumdumm · #6 10-08-2012, 08:42 PM

grinding is boring would rather feed the need

mostbitter · #7 10-08-2012, 09:17 PM

I agree with heartbrand, and would like to add another observation. If you're an under leveled "pvp guild", and you don't restrict yourself to fighting twinks of currently established players. What you really are doing is harassing new players with established characters which makes the server seem uninviting and contributes heavily to the bar of entry being pushed ever higher.

Humerox · #8 10-09-2012, 10:49 AM

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If you're an under leveled "pvp guild", and you don't restrict yourself to fighting twinks of currently established players. What you really are doing is harassing new players with established characters which makes the server seem uninviting and contributes heavily to the bar of entry being pushed ever higher.

This.

Shrubwise · #9 10-09-2012, 03:33 PM

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If you're an under leveled "pvp guild", and you don't restrict yourself to fighting twinks of currently established players. What you really are doing is harassing new players with established characters which makes the server seem uninviting and contributes heavily to the bar of entry being pushed ever higher.

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Because we wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings on this PvP server.

Humerox · #10 10-09-2012, 03:45 PM

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Because we wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings on this PvP server.

Until there's no one left to pvp....oh wait...

Seriously tho, new players should be coddled and helped. PL'd, given a free pass...until they have an investment in their red toon. Much harder to quit when you have an investment. Not only that, griefing isn't any fun for anyone except the mentally deficient. A 20ish Rubi pally can kill whole groups in Unrest. Big deal. The fun starts around 30. Let people get there, and it'll be more fun for everyone. New people still start all the time...and even I came back. (again) We are our own worst enemy on red99...and that's why it's been a failed project. It CAN still be saved. Winter's coming.

Not addressing Flowers on this either...it's just generality. I've had some Flowers be awfully good in buffing some of my lowbies. Sigleaf and Chellsea(sp?). Thanks!

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