FTE is Fing stupid

[suptoofs]

i dont know why you have to dis' the OP, he is just trying to create less drama/douchebaggery, grow the fuck up kids.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Llabak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This has presented itself in a number of cases. BDA has done it to TMO, TMO has done it to BDA, and honestly if any of the smaller guilds were on the ball they'd be doing it to both of us.

I'll stop you there. Not to nitpick, but we don't not FTE snipe because we're not "on the ball", it's because we think it's incredibly lame, futile, and anti-competitive. We've never considered it, we never will, because it's idiotic beyond words. I only speak for my guild but I'm sure Acyrid and other small guilds would say the same.

[Naerron]

Someone took an adderall and logged onto the forums!!

[Cippofra]

I seem to remember even with Fires of Heaven on veeshan people simply set up rotations. Dont understand what reasoning there could possibly be for fte. If you dont have a present force capable of handling the encounter, you deserve a wipe and nothing else. The childish games are ridiculous for a server of this caliber

[Barkingturtle]

It's no wonder Jesse Jackson's kid grew up crazy.

The streets are no place for a boy.

[suptoofs]

Before anything, I am not flaming anyone in TMO

But seriously, how many of these Kubark raid bosses could you possibly still need? Aside from VP and possible a few epic piece kills? Your alts alts alt alt has to be fully equipped by now.

[quido]

My main isn't fully equipped.

[toyodafenninro]

Originally Posted by suptoofs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Before anything, I am not flaming anyone in TMO

But seriously, how many of these Kubark raid bosses could you possibly still need? Aside from VP and possible a few epic piece kills? Your alts alts alt alt has to be fully equipped by now.

This question seems to come up in nearly every discussion I witness on the topic of endgame raid mob distribution. TMO does not raid to gear mains, alts, alts of alts - etc. We raid to kill mobs. We raid to compete. The loot, whoever we award it to, is a by-product of our efforts, not the goal. If TMO ever stops raiding and throws in the towel, which I don't see happening any time soon, it will be because we no longer want to kill raid mobs and compete - never because we don't "need" the loot.

--Upbeat

[suptoofs]

Originally Posted by toyodafenninro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This question seems to come up in nearly every discussion I witness on the topic of endgame raid mob distribution. TMO does not raid to gear mains, alts, alts of alts - etc. We raid to kill mobs. We raid to compete. The loot, whoever we award it to, is a by-product of our efforts, not the goal. If TMO ever stops raiding and throws in the towel, which I don't see happening any time soon, it will be because we no longer want to kill raid mobs and compete - never because we don't "need" the loot.

--Upbeat

What are you competing against? It seems that most guilds are casual raiding, and even then, by the time a smaller guild mobilizes the boss is already down. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[toyodafenninro]

Originally Posted by suptoofs [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What are you competing against? It seems that most guilds are casual raiding, and even then, by the time a smaller guild mobilizes the boss is already down. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No offense, but this question seems a bit odd considering the nature of the OP's post, but I'll bite. We are competing against other guilds. At the moment the main competitor is BDA. I suspect, although I cannot prove it, that other competition will manifest itself with the approach of velious and the attainment of level 60 by many of the new players mentioned in earlier replies.

We also compete against ourselves. We discuss how well, or poorly, we did on any particular encounter or mobilization. If we wipe, we talk about it.

Competition doesn't necessarily mean a near-tie 100% of the time.