Ragefire Agreement as of 06/01/2012

[Harazzer]

Almost lasted a day!

[Xeliso]

Iddy wasn't intentionally trained. Those fire giants follow a specific path in Naggy's Lair/door, they will walk up onto bridge towards lair then finally walk back out. Iddy was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Kwetcher]

Originally Posted by Xeliso [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Iddy wasn't intentionally trained... Iddy was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

If not intentionally trained then why did TMO turn in pearl? I wasn't there, just asking.

[Harazzer]

So iddy was in position to turn in the pearl, the he was "unintentionally trained" by tmo people attempting to get in position to turn in the pearl? Is that really the best you can do for smokescreen?

[Fazlazen]

Originally Posted by Harazzer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So iddy was in position to turn in the pearl, the he was "unintentionally trained" by tmo people attempting to get in position to turn in the pearl? Is that really the best you can do for smokescreen?

BDA rushed lair with every giants on them (thus training themselves). Racun (TMO) just ran by and handed in pearl, after offering to roll on the ragefire and being turned down by BDA.

Who violated rules 1 and 3 ? I'm not too sure, but from my point of view, I wouldn't call TMO the douches here. TMO could have taken Ragefire, no questions asked. Instead, they offered to roll on it... Too bad they got turned down hey ?

I'm also being told that the BDA's raid leader on the scene (Starie) made a post on your boards saying that it was her fault and that she shouldn't have acted selfishly instead of accepting to roll on the rights to RF when 2 guilds were in position to take it. Even your new guild doesn't agree with your stance, Metallikus/Yendor. Why don't you two retards just let it go and listen to your new leadership.

[Harazzer]

Originally Posted by Fazlazen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA rushed lair with every giants on them (thus training themselves). Racun (TMO) just ran by and handed in pearl, after offering to roll on the ragefire and being turned down by BDA.

Who violated rules 1 and 3 ? I'm not too sure, but from my point of view, I wouldn't call TMO the douches here. TMO could have taken Ragefire, no questions asked. Instead, they offered to roll on it... Too bad they got turned down hey ?

I'm also being told that the BDA's raid leader on the scene (Starie) made a post on your boards saying that it was her fault and that she shouldn't have acted selfishly instead of accepting to roll on the rights to RF when 2 guilds were in position to take it. Even your new guild doesn't agree with your stance, Metallikus/Yendor. Why don't you two retards just let it go and listen to your new leadership.

Well at least this is a quasi-respectable attempt to spin and lie your way into looking like angels, so i can respect it somewhat. Here we go.

BDA didn't rush the lair, in fact no one from BDA entered the lair until after a pearl was turned in due to the fact that our force formed up and was clearing giants. TMO having the smaller force in zone were the ones under pressure to leap frog us if they wanted to take the spawn. It makes no logical sense for us to rush engage on a mob that had been universally agreed to be "decent to one another" when we had a superior buffed force in zone actively moving towards it.

Iddy was trained by a mob that was aggro'd by someone from TMO, this is indisputable. Intentional or not is irrelevant since you were trying in bad faith to steal a triggered spawn and directly caused the death of the person from BDA trying to trigger it.

Cute to try to throw in posts paraphrased from our private boards to deflate our credibility. The intent of Starie's post was to apologize to GUILDMATES for potentially mishandling her job as raid leader. She felt guilty that we were taken advantage of because she was negotiating in good faith with people that have none and in doing so gave up strategic advantage.

By the way TMO, congratz to the level 28 alt cleric that got their epic mq'd for them. Definitely worth destroying months of good will between the guilds over ragefire to twink someone's alt and so Xeli could show off blazing vambraces in WC afk. But i guess when you think the server is your personal playground for long enough you really just stop giving a shit about anyone else that plays here.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Fazlazen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA rushed lair with every giants on them (thus training themselves). Racun (TMO) just ran by and handed in pearl, after offering to roll on the ragefire and being turned down by BDA.

Who violated rules 1 and 3 ? I'm not too sure, but from my point of view, I wouldn't call TMO the douches here. TMO could have taken Ragefire, no questions asked. Instead, they offered to roll on it... Too bad they got turned down hey ?

I'm also being told that the BDA's raid leader on the scene (Starie) made a post on your boards saying that it was her fault and that she shouldn't have acted selfishly instead of accepting to roll on the rights to RF when 2 guilds were in position to take it. Even your new guild doesn't agree with your stance, Metallikus/Yendor. Why don't you two retards just let it go and listen to your new leadership.

VD crazy ragers are going to be the death of BDA

[Xeliso]

Haha yes, I purposely wore those arms to spite you all. I wear Embroidered Black Sleeves cause those are BiS and we all know that they look lame. But to say I sat in commons purposely AFK to show off. You mad?

Why I say Iddy wasn't intentionally trained. That was me, I aggro'd some giants peeking over towards the 2 spawn on bridge to see if BDA cleared any giants yet, which they weren't at the time. Obviously that I DON'T train BDA/TMO at FG/Safespot what do I do.. I run into lair to camp out. I go into the lava tunnel and DA and hopes that I camp out in time, which in this case I did.

But unfortunately Iddy caught the butt end of my giant train as they pathed back. Should I have called a train into lair? Debatable. But at the time I didn't know anyone was inside lair so I didn't think of it until I was trying to save myself.

[Metallikus]

Originally Posted by Xeliso [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha yes, I purposely wore those arms to spite you all. I wear Embroidered Black Sleeves cause those are BiS and we all know that they look lame. But to say I sat in commons purposely AFK to show off. You mad?

Why I say Iddy wasn't intentionally trained. That was me, I aggro'd some giants peeking over towards the 2 spawn on bridge to see if BDA cleared any giants yet, which they weren't at the time. Obviously that I DON'T train BDA/TMO at FG/Safespot what do I do.. I run into lair to camp out. I go into the lava tunnel and DA and hopes that I camp out in time, which in this case I did.

But unfortunately Iddy caught the butt end of my giant train as they pathed back. Should I have called a train into lair? Debatable. But at the time I didn't know anyone was inside lair so I didn't think of it until I was trying to save myself.

You freely admit you trained our cleric. The cleric that face tracked Zordak Ragefire and got a raid force assembled before TMO was in zone. You knew that you trained him because you rezzed him directly after. Yet you still decided to take ragefire from him, knowing that you killed him, knowing that he was there camping him before you and had a raid force assembled.

Originally Posted by Dumesh Uhl'Belk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Representatives from Divinity, TMO, BDA, and Taken consulted this week on the state of the Ragefire Rotation and we have agreed to end the rotation. Our new arrangement is as follows:

1. Don't be a douche.

2. No guild will kill more than 2 Ragefires in a row.

3. Don't be a douche.

The demand for Ragefire is slowing way down. We think the 3 rules above will adequately address the situation. If you want to get Ragefire, get your pearl and show up. If someone else is already there and camping, wait your turn. If multiple people are waiting beyond the person who first claimed the camp, roll some dice, or reach another agreement. Be amicable. See rules #1 and #3. No one guild will monopolize this encounter.

Bolded is exactly what TMO chose to ignore by trying to compete after they had been beat to the mob by said cleric camping him. They instead decided to leap frog the BDA raid force clearing giants, rush into lair, train our cleric, rez him, your rep Racun was negotiating a roll, then he decides to turn in pearl anyways and kite ragefire until TMO gets a force in the lair all while faking a conversation with our raid leader to roll for it. How can you seriously defend being douches?

[Fazlazen]

Originally Posted by Metallikus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You freely admit you trained our cleric. The cleric that face tracked Zordak Ragefire and got a raid force assembled before TMO was in zone. You knew that you trained him because you rezzed him directly after. Yet you still decided to take ragefire from him, knowing that you killed him, knowing that he was there camping him before you and had a raid force assembled.



Bolded is exactly what TMO chose to ignore by trying to compete after they had been beat to the mob by said cleric camping him. They instead decided to leap frog the BDA raid force clearing giants, rush into lair, train our cleric, rez him, your rep Racun was negotiating a roll, then he decides to turn in pearl anyways and kite ragefire until TMO gets a force in the lair all while faking a conversation with our raid leader to roll for it. How can you seriously defend being douches?

You sound very mad... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]