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Old 05-24-2012, 12:55 PM
Dacuk Dacuk is offline
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The issue that I see with this server is a lack of creativity to spark pop. While there is a lot of controversy around some of the ideas that HB posted, I think that the best way to find out the impact of them is to give em a shot.

Yellow text? lets try it.. if it sucks and causes excessive grief like the naysayers believe it will, it should be easy to get rid of.

XP boost? Lets try it for a month.. if it doesnt boost pop, then get rid of it.

All of these things are absolutely feasible on a trial basis, however the challenge is that they require dev/gm engagement throughout the process, and unfortunately, it seems the staff has a lot going on that may preclude this from happening. Rogean I'm sure can offer his thoughts to help clarify his perspective hopefully.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:32 PM
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XP boost? Lets try it for a month.. if it doesnt boost pop, then get rid of it.

xp was doubled for two weeks late last year, during that time the population crashed harder then at any other point, never to recover. XP was not the issue.


xp was again increased last patch, we have still continued to see the pop drop downdowndown. XP was not the issue.

all further xp boosts would do is exacerbate problems like throw-away train/hack/box accounts and further cheapen the p99 red experience as the last 40 players have 6 accounts of max level toons to train and hack with.. each.

The true PROBLEM is: people just getting bored and leaving the server until more content is released. When you are in full fear/hate armor and have best in slot out of all that "uber" guk gear, you stop playing because your character ceases to grow.

The SOLUTION is: accelerate the accelerated timeline already. Want to see pop 100+ a night again? Release sky this weekend. Want to see 200+ pop again? Release Kunark next month.

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Old 05-24-2012, 12:59 PM
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Luinil loot corpse pls
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Old 05-24-2012, 12:59 PM
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To respond to boxing, boxing on blue allows one person to monopolize camps he couldn't otherwise hold on his own, to the detriment of the player base. On a PVP server you can simply kill the boxers who are unable to play in PVP effectively, see: ruthbader crew, fallen, killjoy etc. all murked daily while tryin to box
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:00 PM
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I am for:
Boxing Yes (one exemption per)
Remove hybrid penalty
Faster content release

Indifferent on:
Yellow Text
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:11 PM
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We've tried to no avail to get hybrid penalty removed before. It isn't going to happen.

Experience is already increased. Get over it.

Boxing destroys a blue server, nevermind pvp.

Yellow Text = vztzject custom faggotry. It isn't going to happen. Rogean said point blank "never." He said the basis for this server is P99, not vztz, so deal with it.

Content release, no idea what is going on there to be honest. I figured Kunark would be out by now.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:19 PM
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Boxing for Red
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Pros:

Easier to find groups
Easier to roll solo on this server during down time
Easier to hold camps down and vice versa more pvp for those camps
Eaiser for guilds to field more "players" to compete, allowing a 2 guild server to become a 3 guild server or even a 4 guild server
Easier for noobs to find help, buff bots / port bots / trader bots, etc.
Makes server feel more alive
More characters to kill
Most people suck at boxing for PVP so ezier kills

Cons:

Those who are really good @ boxing will dominate newbs without groups (tho this can be a pro as well because it encourages the newb to bring friends to fight the boxer, thus leading to more pvp)
Can lead to anti-social behavior, tho on a 50 person server, I think the pro outweighs the con on this one
People can down raid content with minimal numbers, tho again, this could lead to pvp between guilds / box crews over that content



Ez Fix for Cons? Limit boxing to 2 chars. This allows melee/healer type combos, allows people to box healers on raids, etc. etc.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:45 PM
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Boxing for Red
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Pros:

Easier to find groups
Easier to roll solo on this server during down time
Easier to hold camps down and vice versa more pvp for those camps
Eaiser for guilds to field more "players" to compete, allowing a 2 guild server to become a 3 guild server or even a 4 guild server
Easier for noobs to find help, buff bots / port bots / trader bots, etc.
Makes server feel more alive
More characters to kill
Most people suck at boxing for PVP so ezier kills

Cons:

Those who are really good @ boxing will dominate newbs without groups (tho this can be a pro as well because it encourages the newb to bring friends to fight the boxer, thus leading to more pvp)
Can lead to anti-social behavior, tho on a 50 person server, I think the pro outweighs the con on this one
People can down raid content with minimal numbers, tho again, this could lead to pvp between guilds / box crews over that content

Ez Fix for Cons? Limit boxing to 2 chars. This allows melee/healer type combos, allows people to box healers on raids, etc. etc.

Heartbrand u make the stupidest arguments for boxing, stfu alrdy, it will only deter new comers and make it easier to level alts...

Hybrid penalty needs to be removed.

EXP alrdy boosted.

YT would be nice but not game changing.

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Resists: Player base continues to say they don't want a special custom resist system, they want classic. For a server that's built upon being classic, this one is just mind boggling to me. The evidence of what classic was has been documented all over these boards, it's not an issue of can the devs make it classic, it's an issue of they don't want it to be classic.
Resist seem ok to me, and you claim that theres been evidence of classic resists all over the boards? Well.... "I remember" is not evidence, sorry pal, do some research if you want it changed.

Seems to me that you are upset you have BiS MR items in every slot and are still taking full fire and ice damage, try having a more balanced resist set.
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Old 05-24-2012, 03:26 PM
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The GM's that actually matter stopped caring about this server a few weeks in. Whether it was Star Wars or not being able to handle the community BS, they just stopped being active.

Sure there were a lot of issue's, but it was the lack of communication that started the drop in population. Once the pop started to drop, you started a chain effect of people quitting because others were quitting and they started to view the grind as a waste of time.

Fixing all the issue's you outlined will do little to change the server.

People will only come back if there is a population, there will only be a population if people come back. Quite the paradox.

The only realistic way to get people back is for Rogean to be a active vocal leader again and gain the perception that the population will increase.
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Old 05-24-2012, 04:15 PM
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The only realistic way to get people back is for Rogean to be a active vocal leader again and gain the perception that the population will increase.
^x5

Listening to people defer and watching GM's on an island by themselves got old awhile ago. Couldn't have said it better myself. The #1 thing that will bring life back to this server is the creator himself being active and accessible to the community. I commend the folks who have stuck it through and continue to play on here, but nothing short of Kunark may ever spike my interest again. Little interest in farming pixels non-stop and PvPing the same 25 people.

Bottom line, R99 was an after-thought. At least that is the vibe I get, I can picture a motivated and ambitious Rogean seeking for the perfect Classic experience on blue, but we now know that motivation never moved on over to Red99. If he changed his mentality, and would seek the perfect PvP server and was open to suggestions such as the ones mentioned by Heartbrand and others countless times then this server has hope, but his intention with Red99 is nothing more than a blue afterthought with PvP flag enabled. It sucks, because it is by far and large the most stable box and proven reputation.

It's a shame, felt the server had a lot of potential but it was poorly managed and severely mishandled.
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