Ranger vs Paladin for pvp?

[Weekapaug]

I've been doing that off and on, but with people coming and going as they do, just thought I would ask. I've not seen first hand what the mid-high level situation is here.

The numbers seem pretty even, really, from what I've seen during the busier times, so kind of hard to get a bead on what's really going on from that, I guess.

[Maze]

Everything is needed on a 50 pop server play what your skilled with you will need any advantage you can get in pvp later.

[Weekapaug]

Thank you, Maze. Excellent points.

In a holding pattern atm before I can play tonight (which is why I'm posting instead of playing) but I've been sitting here contemplating all of this and I think my problem is this...

After a month of floundering bored with multiple toons on blue, I'm finally stoked to sink into something, get levelled up, and dive in. VERY excited about red....

I've found on blue, despite being quite the twinker during my time in EQ, that I have vastly more fun with untwinked chars....If you twink, all there is left to do is grind and I don't get much of a sense of accomplishment from that. And it's one dimensional and dull. I've found I enjoy not twinking, lately.

Paladin, all things considered, is probably not the best choice of classes for this, at least for a main toon. Exp penalty + bugs + eye of the tiger levelling = frustration, I think, and I think I may be better off taking my time with the pally and playing it as an alt and having fun with it, rather than getting frustrated because I'm trying to advance asap....This is more about what I want to do than the class, really. I knew it would be slow, but with the issues here it's a bit much. I can get it done and scratch that itch better on another toon, basicly, I think.

Think I might roll a cleric. Ive played several over the years, highest being 70ish with like 600AA. With no exp penalty (not to mention, root at level 5), I think I'll be happier. Class has soloability, obvious groupability, melee issues aren't really an issue, is more forgiving as a first toon than a melee....and, if memory serves is one of the better classes for group pvp, but not so much 1v1? Am I missing anything?

Pops are low...Realisticly, how bad or not is it soloing up a cleric old world if one had to? Anything a bluebie should know about clerics in pvp that are way outside of the blue norm?

[Maze]

Clerics are easy to level, good for group PvP and raiding.

Some classes are very reliant on the skill level of the user to be effective in PvP alone, Cleric falls into that category imo.

[Seaweedpimp]

Enchanters are the medium id say of all classes, any pure melee is rare, any hybrid is rare besides the sk which is allmost more popular than wizards.

Need more necros, rogs, mnk, not too much f a shortage on clerics imo but more are allways better.

[Seaweedpimp]

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Pops are low...Realisticly, how bad or not is it soloing up a cleric old world if one had to? Anything a bluebie should know about clerics in pvp that are way outside of the blue norm?

It wouldn be too hard 1-5.

5-10 might be a little harder

10-20 you might find an undead camp

20-30 youre pretty screwed for soloing

30-40 id say youre still pretty screwed out of soloing

40-50 you can definately solo spectres up to 46ish, past 44 its gonna be slow, but specs still give exp.


pvp, youre not killing anyone who is full life/full mana except MAYBE a rogue. Best to use root and DA to get out of tight situations, theres just nothing you can do.

At the same time any other pure casting class will go oom trying to kill you if youre smart, dispell all dots, cure all poision, cure all disease, stun and root as nessisary and they will eventually realize they might as well befriend you, because they arent going to be slaying you.

[Weekapaug]

Thanks, fellas. I sincerely appreciate the insight.

When you say enchanters are the medium, do you mean in terms of population?

Enchanter appeals to me also, but for some reason I have visions of constantly being eaten alive in PvP as opposed to the cleric. I'm more familiar with clerics too. But if I'm simply not going to be able to level the cleric that's a big consideration. Both classes appeal to me equally, just something about being a bit hardier built and able to heal sticks out to me.

When you say 20-40 you are pretty screwed, is that because there are no places for clerics to solo at all (i think i can think of a few), or there are no places for clerics to solo here because people will be trying to kill me constantly? I can see unrest and LG being fairly high traffic here, basicly.

I would consider a monk, but it's going to have to be after they fix this melee skills bug. I have a level 8 necro but not having iksar regen nags at me and I would rather wait for that.

Think an enchanter might be more forgiving than a cleric given the current state of the server?

[Maze]

Actually 19-34 are very easy to solo the house in unrest, you will also get ALOT of pvp practice im sure lol.

[Weekapaug]

I'm sure. LOL Unrest has to hand it to you one way or another, if not a train on blue then something else here. :P

[Seaweedpimp]

Im sure others can give you ideas on where to solo as a cleric, i just know 40-45 specs would probably be ideal is not your only option.

I see just as many enchanters as i do necros i think. More wizards/dru/bard/sk than anything else.

Im sure its possible to solo from 1-50, but you wont have to, and you wouldnt want to is what i mean by youre screwed. Screwed meaning youl be leveling at a very slow rate, and youre not going to know exactly whats going to happen like if you played a mage or a necro.