Alter End-Game Mechanics

[falkun]

Originally Posted by fischsemmel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You want to kill dragons without effort?

Go play Skyrim.

Or be like this guy and join TMO! You joined after the war was over, you have no room to talk and should see yourself to the door now.

[fischsemmel]

All right, fine.

/em walks out the door, surrounded by pretty, floating, blue musical notes.


More seriously, are you really going to blame me for not being on the server back when there was a war between the raiding guilds? Most of the time you trolly folk are excited to point out how I play too much, but now you're going to blame me for not playing enough! And are you really going to blame me for picking the winning side when I did get here? Of course I joined the best guild on the server, and why I did so had already been explained to other mad, epicless bards on the forums before.

And more importantly, these people probably aren't talking about how they want to avoid raid-guild wars. They're talking about how they want to be able to kill dragons on their own schedules without anyone else showing up to take their merbs. AKA they want Skyrim/instances/whatever. Hence my original comment.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by fischsemmel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All right, fine.

/em walks out the door, surrounded by pretty, floating, blue musical notes.

Who earned that for you, and how much time have you spent on poop mountain?

[fischsemmel]

Only a troll (or a mad, epicless bard) would pick that part of my post to comment on, and totally ignore the "more seriously" part.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by fischsemmel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only a troll (or a mad, epicless bard) would pick that part of my post to comment on, and totally ignore the "more seriously" part.

Speaking of we have a bard epic for sale... go find out link in EC tunnel Deajay.


More seriously, fisch has good raid attendance and logs alot of tracking hours. He has more than earned his bard epic.

[fischsemmel]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More seriously, fisch has good raid attendance and logs alot of tracking hours. He has more than earned his bard epic.

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Trying to get back on topic though: Dea, I'm all for a change in end-game mechanics that end up giving more people a chance at kills/loot... it just has to be mechanics that aren't so counter to everything classic EQ stood for.

Guilds being entitled to a certain number of boss spawns per week, instancing, etc., those are the exact opposite of a wide-open game where people can deal with each other and compete with each other for the limited resources that are available ingame.

Everyone and their brother on these forums likes to yell about how TMO is such a bunch of losers that they have fun clearing every raid mob every week with no one to race against. But then a bunch of you come into a thread like this and say you want the chance to do exactly the same thing. Wtf, mate?

[fischsemmel]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why change the classic stuff when there's unclassic stuff that should be changed first (like the incredibly long variance for raid mobs)?

So you'd have, for example, VS spawn exactly 7 days after his last death?

Anyone who is in favor of this system realizes that it means the only way you'd get raid kills is by poopsocking and FTE racing, right? And that these are the exact same things that 90% of people on the forums like to bitch about being the bane of all that is good and right in the universe?

[falkun]

"You want to kill dragons without effort?"

You didn't experience the racing when it mattered, your point will ALWAYS be moot because of the fact you don't know the effort involved in racing.

"...ignore the "more serious" part."

What part? Your post was literally 2 lines before you edited it. One agreed with me that you never participated in the race, and the other admitted that even though you haven't participated in the race, you still have your epic (a taunt insinuating you are therefore better because you have it). What's the more serious part I'm supposed to address? I'll get right on that as soon as you post one.

"come into a thread like this and say you want the chance to do the exact same thing"
"realizes that it means the only way you'd get raid kills is by poopsocking and FTE racing"

You realize this is EXACTLY the same as what's already happening? You do...

"90% of the people on the forums like to bitch about"

So what's the difference? If we went to a static respawn, instead of the variance, the only difference is you'd have to spend less time tracking. You'd know about the poopsocking and FTE racing if you experienced the guild wars. But you didn't, so you sound like a moron talking about how the server would digress back into them.

My point still stands: you don't know what the race was like, you need to stop talking about it like you do. Pack your epic and your uncontested raid loot and go back to the TMO server forums where someone might care what opinion you have. Here, you have no experience, and therefore no opinion, journeyman.

[Norok]

Competition is what made classic EQ great. Equal-opportunity-raiding is what makes WoW a commercial success in that it is accessible to everyone. That's why I don't play WoW.

Scarcity of resources is what creates value. There is value in raid content and rewards because not everyone can access it. This dynamic challenges people to improve their play and form effective guilds.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Norok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Competition is what made classic EQ great. Equal-opportunity-raiding is what makes WoW a commercial success in that it is accessible to everyone. That's why I don't play WoW.

Scarcity of resources is what creates value. There is value in raid content and rewards because not everyone can access it. This dynamic challenges people to improve their play and form effective guilds.

There are WoW vanilla emu's that are pretty fun. Check em out@!