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Old 04-04-2012, 11:42 PM
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Old 04-04-2012, 11:50 PM
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I wasn't gonna post in this, because it's pretty ridiculous, but I will anyway as a few points crop up in my head.

Holocaust did nothing to run us off the server first and foremost. Cast can go on his little rants and try to claim it was him who ran the legendary Searyx off of this box, but we all know Cast is mentally challenged.
  • This guild was not centered around Searyx, nor was it ever meant to be (from my understanding at least from reading up on this before I joined a little over 2 weeks ago), but it was a guild of people from TZT who wanted to play classic eq pvp.

Next, there are several people in TZ leveling at a rapid pace. I started this server with nothing, and have pushed myself into some decent gear (with a donation from Friedchicken at around 22, and help from Destin to get my Staff of the Wheel), and also got myself to level 40.
  • Gildis has been leveling two characters since i got on here, both were 20 when i started. One is now 38 (or 39?) and the other is 30.
  • Knitting started after me and is I think 29ish now, and the list goes on.
  • Those of us who hit the roadblock were group dependent classes because we had no real organization around guild exping.

With all of that out of the way, my next point is the mental state of this server. All I see is a bunch of whiny, pompous, and sometimes mentally challenged idiots crying over shit classic pvp doesn't NEED.
  • Global ooc, can be nice but seriously why the fuck do you need to be able to talk acrossed the server unless you're just that attention starved?
  • Yellow text, NOBODY GIVES A FUCK if you killed some random kid in Upper Guk. The only time this is usefull is the extremely rare occasion where someone is being bind camped. Once again NOT NECESSARY.
  • GM interaction, I will give you guys this one. Rogean should be more involved in this project. However spamming threads and spamming him PM's isn't going to make him come back any faster. ******It is the retards on this forum who scared him away from ever having a hand in this server.******
  • Lack of content release, this was probably also needed. However, refer back to my previous point to see why you guys don't have it yet.
  • Lastly the griefing, it was bound to happen. Everquest on live desolved to griefing over content throughout it's entire existence. The problem lies with people's attitudes over what happens to them.

Most of you guys think because someone did something shitty to you, that you should turn around and do something shitty to 5 more people just to vent the anger you feel. You created this mess, and now you're living in this vortex of bullshit that you helped create.

The reason emu's like this continue to fail has nothing to do with the people running the servers. It all comes down to retards getting mad and not caring anymore and just poisoning the server and its morale until it desolves into something not worth playing anymore.

Aside from the bullshit mob pathing (pathing through walls is beyond irritating yes) this was a great box. The retards still living in mom's basement who have nothing better to do with their lives than poopsock a classic eq server, because it reminds them of a time when they actually liked who they were as a person are what kill these Emu's over and over.
nailed it. read this man's quote if you want to know what's going on. Kab - do you have Steam or anything? pm me your username if so. I am happy to have gotten to game with you a bit and I think you're a cool dude that I didn't get to know well enough on live.

you guys can say/think whatever you want, TZ didn't fold, a few members just decided it wasn't worth wasting time here and all for different reasons. that may transition into more not wanting to play, who knows. we came to play together so it could impact others.

personally speaking for myself and nobody else: I've already been quoted, I don't need to repeat myself on that part. I'm not down for the killing folks on corpse runs, corpse camping people unprovoked, nobody scooting, training for no reason, not allowing loot and scoot when politely requested etc. this is what happened in the majority of the 'pvp' I experienced here. i consider that grief, maybe your skins thicker than mine. the majority of players I ran into were just trolling and griefing for fun, screaming profanity while corpse camping people lol, and it's not my play style. I didn't ever get angry while this happened, I just log for a while. I'm not talking about 'grief' as regular pvp, so please stop pretending that is the case, I'm talking about people going out of their way to be dicks for no reason.

sektor, you make me laugh. you were guildless on TZ because you 'made a name for yourself' being an absolute tard. I tolerated you on live because we had a mutual friend, and you were actually okay at times, but you were so focused on annoying people. your attitude and mindset always fit in with a server like this so I'm glad you've found somewhere to fit in a decade later.

that's all I'm stating, I won't reply here again. I'm not upset or sad or anything, I'm just letting ya know where I'm coming from, cutting my losses and moving on. it's just not worth my time when I don't fit in with the pvp mindset on this server. I'm used to there being mutual respect and honorable pvp.
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Old 04-04-2012, 11:52 PM
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He didn't grief me - I took care of it and killed him, remember? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]



I wasn't angry about that at all -- I thought it was almost as awesome as when KB killed you.

But in seriousness, I'm not singling Cast out. There are some cool members in Holocaust, but why was this thread created? To brag about bind camping a lowbie necro in my guild? As a whole all I've seen out of Holocaust is repeatedly getting made Nihilum's bitch and griefing away any potential alliances with other guilds.

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Yea I killed KB and he killed me. Was 29 he was 34 and I'm still learning how to play. =)

The person that made this thread is from TZ, Amuk was a Dark Elf Rogue back in the day. Likely with all of the smack talking on Tallon Zek Times forums made him make this post.
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Old 04-04-2012, 11:54 PM
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nailed it. read this man's quote if you want to know what's going on. Kab - do you have Steam or anything? pm me your username if so. I am happy to have gotten to game with you a bit and I think you're a cool dude that I didn't get to know well enough on live.

you guys can say/think whatever you want, TZ didn't fold, a few members just decided it wasn't worth wasting time here and all for different reasons. that may transition into more not wanting to play, who knows. we came to play together so it could impact others.

personally speaking for myself and nobody else: I've already been quoted, I don't need to repeat myself on that part. I'm not down for the killing folks on corpse runs, corpse camping people unprovoked, nobody scooting, training for no reason, not allowing loot and scoot when politely requested etc. this is what happened in the majority of the 'pvp' I experienced here. i consider that grief, maybe your skins thicker than mine. the majority of players I ran into were just trolling and griefing for fun, screaming profanity while corpse camping people lol, and it's not my play style. I didn't ever get angry while this happened, I just log for a while. I'm not talking about 'grief' as regular pvp, so please stop pretending that is the case, I'm talking about people going out of their way to be dicks for no reason.

sektor, you make me laugh. you were guildless on TZ because you 'made a name for yourself' being an absolute tard. I tolerated you on live because we had a mutual friend, and you were actually okay at times, but you were so focused on annoying people. your attitude and mindset always fit in with a server like this so I'm glad you've found somewhere to fit in a decade later.

that's all I'm stating, I won't reply here again. I'm not upset or sad or anything, I'm just letting ya know where I'm coming from, cutting my losses and moving on. it's just not worth my time when I don't fit in with the pvp mindset on this server. I'm used to there being mutual respect and honorable pvp.
I'm glad you're still living in the past.
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:04 AM
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Bro did you miss the irony of saying that while playing the emulated version of a 13 year old computer game?
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Old 04-05-2012, 12:47 AM
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The person that made this thread is from TZ, Amuk was a Dark Elf Rogue back in the day. Likely with all of the smack talking on Tallon Zek Times forums made him make this post.
Yes Amuk was a DE rogue on tallon zek, as well as Bamzal 2.0 (the one who got geared). I messaged him within 5 minutes of him creating this post, and he told me Utumno showed him what people were saying and he was just looking to create drama cuz he doesn't care about this server anymore. Had nothing to do with him thinking holocaust drove us off.

Also to go with Marg's comment on shady pvp, my last 2 or 3 pvp encounters have been people snaring me while quad kiting. Then I'll die or gate away, come back and the person basically gates or runs and plugs.

Bunch of chicken shits as far as I've seen so far, the only people who haven't ran and plugged from me had the twink gear to not care (Redz comes to mind). I admit back during the live days I was one who would avoid dying at all costs to try and "save face", but after trying to carry that into MMO's after that I realized it's stupid and pointless. Regardless of whether or not you die, you still lost because you had to run and plug.
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Old 04-05-2012, 03:23 AM
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Please don't call me a nobody Sektor.
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Old 04-05-2012, 06:11 AM
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Old 04-05-2012, 06:18 AM
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people like macken who grief (btw hes very well mannered and personable in vent lol) always made me want to play more. in the hopes one day i would have enough gear to resist his shit and enough savvy to catch him slippin. You're not meant for pvp if you can be griefed off a server imo
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Old 04-05-2012, 09:22 AM
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I used to wonder why FF and Holo didn't band together more tightly to fight Nihilum, but it's pretty clear why now (and Sanlaven called this one): there are just too many retards in Holocaust who want to grief.
Surprised how few remember this from levelling up. There is a few good people in holo of course, but most of them i havent seen online lately.
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