Patch Notes, Wednesday May 5th, 2010

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by matahari [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We also remember having to buff ourselves to time out buffing.

I clearly remember this being the only way to know that my buffs ran off of other players. I used to buff myself first, then buff the group. Once my buffs started fading, I knew that it was rebuffing time!

[Bumamgar]

There are only two patch messages that mention spell worn off messages:

August 23, 2000 7:00 am (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/hist...es-2000-2.html)
*Updated EQCLIENT.INI documentation*
[snip]
Here is a list of user colors to use as a guide when editing the file:
[snip]
29 - Spell worn off
...

This shows that some messages existed prior to 8/23/2000, and they were documenting how to set the color for them in your eqclient.ini file.

The next mention is the revamp on May 11, 2005 (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/hist...es-2005-1.html)

-Based on player feedback, we have removed the notification to the caster that occurred whenever a heal-over-time spell made an exceptional heal and added new functionality to let the caster know when their spell has worn off.
-All detrimental spells that have a duration will now notify their caster when they wear off.
-All buffs that last at least 24 seconds and do not go to the short buff window will now notify their caster when they wear off.



However, I have logs going back to 2003 (yes, I know, not classic, but before the worn off revamp of 2005) showing worn off messages for a variety of detrimental spells (Apathy, Bliss, Cripple, Dazzle, Entrancing Lights, Fascination, Forlorn Deeds, Graeter Fetter, Howl of Tashan, Rapture, Strangle, Tashania, Torment of Argli, Torment of Scio, Word of Morell, 'charm', 'fear', Instill, Mark of Retaliation, Petrifying Earth) (can you tell my logs are from an Enchanter and a Cleric? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.])

I, sadly, don't have logs going back earlier than 2003, but I've asked my guildies to see if they have anything going back further...

Edit: Based on Nilbog's post, it looks like this patch is in sync with what my logs show, ie: worn off messages for detrimental spells only, while the target is alive only.

[Malrubius]

Man, I would think there would be a ton of such old logs. Anybody?

I'll always regret not having logging turned on back in the day. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[km2783]

I know when I started playing before 2000 they were not there. By Kunark I wasn't playing a caster, though, so I don't know exactly when it was implimented. Well, I had a Cleric for a brief time in Kunark and I still don't remember the messages.

I did like having it, though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Classic be damned! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Bumamgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Enchanters had to time mezzes in their head or with an egg-timer so they could remez BEFORE it wore off, not because there wasn't a message when it did.

There were definitely wore-off messages for mez, root and other detrimental effects from day one. There were *not* wore off messages for buffs and other beneficial spells.

This is how I remember things when I played a caster

**edit** looky what me found...

EverQuest Patch Notes Archive

[guineapig]

So no more buff wore off messages, period.
Glad I'm not a pet class. At least my group can tell me when they need a refresh.

que sera sera

[Rogean]

I have all my logs from combine server. I had other hits turned on too. In a raiding guild. Yea.. You can imagine how much space thats taking up (like 10 gigs?)

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have all my logs from combine server. I had other hits turned on too. In a raiding guild. Yea.. You can imagine how much space thats taking up (like 10 gigs?)

That's just crazy man, but very beneficial now I bet!

[PhilPhans]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have all my logs from combine server. I had other hits turned on too. In a raiding guild. Yea.. You can imagine how much space thats taking up (like 10 gigs?)

how many entries in that 10 gig log do you have me grabbing peoples butts?

[Rogean]

Ok so it seems, you should get the message for detrimental only.

And we need to remove dot damage messages? What do people think about that.. It would make necros unparsable =\

[BuzWeaver]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok so it seems, you should get the message for detrimental only.

And we need to remove dot damage messages? What do people think about that.. It would make necros unparsable =\

You still have Droids and Shaman who use DOTs too, not to mention damaged shields. If we see DD damage, then why not DOTs?