Game Mechanics: Undead do not train - Page 3

Nirgon · #21 10-30-2012, 06:19 PM

Something like... aggro ranges grow? For instance, nothing is bothering said shaman in this vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-zAS...eature=related

He hits a spectre, and the one behind him that wasn't even touching him before aggros without him getting any closer. That's how I remember this "aggro stuff" working.

Its much different and hard to put my finger on, so I point to this video.

Training things over top of people that didn't like them that were undead, absolutely. Giants were the same, they scowled to all and weren't on any faction table of any kind.

A mob being on a faction I believe did make it discriminate. Hell, I remember seeing spectres kill all kinds of things that got near them. I believe I was able to train a mummy into the derv camp to "tank" for us to break into a full spawn at derv 2 back in the D (the mummy being slower on foot than most helped as well).

Lol I think that spectre tried to gate on him (1:34) too...

**nilbog** · #22 10-30-2012, 06:22 PM

That video is not from eq live broseph.

**nilbog** · #23 10-30-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfgang [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

confirmed specs and sandgiants would agro everyone as you trained them along. not sure if i pulled them with spell or proximity agroed but i never had a problem getting them to kill everyone in my path. somethin aint right here

I was thinking that npcs which had a general 'scowl to all' might have behaved similarly. That would include undead without factions and other npcs without factions which scowled to all.

zombie, spectre, sand giant, werewolf, etc. Just a thought.

Nirgon · #24 10-30-2012, 06:30 PM

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That video is not from eq live broseph.

Yeah but it works like I (and others I shared it w/) remember it, /shrug

I have another specific test I could try to do bank killing someone in Neriak to see if guards aggro correctly ^_^

Nirgon · #25 10-30-2012, 07:09 PM

Yes specters did gate low hp. They didn't announce it like, say frogs in seb or raid mobs either.

I remember getting them low, not having the mana to finish right when I triggered "gate hp" on them.

The specter would gate back to its spawn point, but not immediately aggro. However, if you got close enough to the island/its spawn point again, it would start chasing you again (bringing his friends along too if any were up and the # aggrod was affected by your level) and would slowly regenerate its hp and if it had been disengaged until then.

Fact! Not fiction!

What a fun memory to have right there.

Nizzarr · #26 10-30-2012, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes specters did gate low hp. They didn't announce it like, say frogs in seb or raid mobs either.

I remember getting them low, not having the mana to finish right when I triggered "gate hp" on them.

The specter would gate back to its spawn point, but not immediately aggro. However, if you got close enough to the island/its spawn point again, it would start chasing you again (bringing his friends along too if any were up and the # aggrod was affected by your level) and would slowly regenerate its hp and if it had been disengaged until then.

Fact! Not fiction!

What a fun memory to have right there.

Wait what? LOL

Nirgon · #27 10-30-2012, 07:30 PM

I'm positive specters would gate back to their bind. That's the truth.

They'd only aggro if you got near them again, otherwise they'd all just sit in the tower.

Nirgon · #28 10-31-2012, 03:19 AM

Looks right. Don't think I saw em cast a life tap maybe but that's how it was.

How level effects social aggro is interesting too. You could single pull if you were high enough of a level above the group of targets.

I remember single pulling a camp for a friend' SK twink. It was kind of PLing just getting him single mobs with the regen he had.

**nilbog** · #29 10-31-2012, 04:15 PM

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proof time? proof time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXA_Y...feature=relmfu

real

Not eq live.

Nirgon · #30 10-31-2012, 04:23 PM

Yeah I see they come from the same source but this is just illustrating how it should work. It's not eqlive like I thought when I was looking at the previous shaman soloing vid, the hint being "debug xxx". But I think we can all agree it should work like that.

I'm still very amused by the whole specter should gate thing. Really brings back the memories.