State of the Economy: Ingame

[Doors]

Even if the servers flooded with duped plat which it probably is, that doesn't make it harder for the newbies to aquire money it just makes it easier. Be smart about buying and selling shit. There are a hundred different smart ways to make money and no, farming hill giants isn't one of them.

[Barkingturtle]

And it was never removed?

Like I said: I just don't really see it in game. I understand that as a new player seeing prices in excess of 100k is scary, but that's the way it was on live, too. I distinctly remember selling my first fungi tunic early in Luclin for 90k.

Items like CoF and other various dragon loots on this server are inflated due to the raid scene, in my opinion. The monopolization of content on this server is far more pronounced than anything I experienced back in the day.

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you'd read my earlier post before jumping to conclusions and hurling insults at possibly the only person on the server who has ever given you any respect at all, which is still more respect than is due, you would have observed that no, it wasn't all removed. Once it is spent, it's impossible to undo. As I said, this went on for months, and it was as simple as cancelling a trades on a laggy connection. The simpler a dupe, the more rampant and harder to keep up with.

Are you insulted by my observation that your feelings were hurt by your unplanned exorcism from P99? Because that wasn't an insult. Maybe I missed where I called you a person unworthy of respect or something.

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it was irrelevant, you wouldn't have come crying to me over the 6 bags of gear you dropped on the ground that I kindly restored for you. After all, you only would have cried those tears if you were going to be a consumer forever.

Well thanks for invalidating everything I'll read from you from now on. I've been wondering if the things you say are accurate, but the manner in which you've chosen to portray our lone customer service interaction is enough to tell me you're just pretty butthurt about how your tenure ended around here, and you're merely attempting to be subversive by posting the way you do.

Frankly I was appreciative of your assistance with my drop-transfer gone wrong, but to claim I came "crying to you" is incendiary and just a pathetic attempt to bolster your credibility.

I made a thread in the petition forum to see if it was possible to be indemnified after my internet crashed at the precise moment I dropped my bags. I even stated in the thread that I wasn't sure anything would come of it.

Those loots were the entirety of my accumulated wealth at that point. Yes, I would have been bummed. However, the economy as it is would have aided me in returning to a position of wealth.

I mean, the way I obtained my start-up capital for Tunnelquesting in the first place was selling a Sarnak Liberator for 13 or 16k. Surely a sign of rampant inflation.

[Barkingturtle]

Semantics, really. Forgive me for not committing to memory every bit of inane minutia regarding your time spent working on some video game emu.

You were confronted by unforeseen obstacles and you bounced. You exorcised yourself, then.

The more important point is you're clearly very upset about it, even with some water under the bridge, evidenced by the way you post now. Any more all I see from you is negativity and self-indulgent demagoguery. It's disappointing, but not entirely unpredictable, given your long, documented history of anti-social behavior around here.

Well take it easy little fella. You've lost any sympathy I had for you, and yet you have my pity, friend.

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want to speak of unplanned exorcisms, you may wish to revisit why you fled these forums previously, much the same as you fled the allakhazam forums.

To be fair, Allakhazam fled from me.

[slemmykazaam]

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[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by slemmykazaam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Whats the point of your argument? You have admitted he knows much more about the situation than you and he has said there is an unspecified amount of duped plat in the economy. Conclusion: There is an unspecified amount of duped plat in the economy.

My point was merely that I haven't seen the effect I'd equate with billions of duped plat. Thought I made that abundantly clear by using words like "anecdotal" and "observation".

[Grozmok]

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[Zallar]

Set a Max point and flush the rest.

Determine a one time cap like 100k or 200k and do a query, anyone over that cap has all excess removed. Do it once, don't give any warning, apologize afterwards that it was needed to maintain the health of the server.

Certainly you won't get every ill gotten loot or money squirreled away in gems but it will remove some of the pressure.

[Splorf22]

I don't understand this whining over inflation. Any decent farming class can get 2+ kpp an hour without too much trouble, yet really nice rare/rare items like the Sarnak Warhammer are 10k, HBC is like 3k, Black Sapphires are 4-5k. I'm pretty sure I have exactly 2 items over 15k on all three of my toons put together. Do you people expect to be able to farm seafuries for a day and then buy BIS god/dragon loot? Even now Kinbeezy is selling an RBB for 170k. I could get that with 50-60 hours of farming easily - a hell of a lot less work than the number of Vox/Gorenaire raids I'd have to go on to get it awarded in a guild.

I believe Uthgaard when he talks about duping plats, but the idea that new players or second tier guilds are getting screwed over by the tunnel is ludicrous.