Game Mechanics: Nagafen on red

[Tumdumm]

did they ever change nagafan or vox on live? i thought they always left it as is, just the banish anyone over 52 was added

if thats the case im willing to parse out a fight with either, just gotta reactivate them ol live accounts

[Autotune]

Can we delete the recharging trolling bs posts (nuke this one as well) and just keep this bug thread on topic pls.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You (and others) seem to think I've taken a stance on whether or not it is a legitimate kill and/or working as intended. Did you ever see me state that it was? The truth of it is I could care less until someone points out exactly what is not working as it should, instead of generalizing OH THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT. My own opinion remains rather neutral in these matters.

I'm sorry if you disagree with me on this but it isn't my problem, it's your (the players) problem and responsibility, to come up with the details and specifics on these bugs. I (and other devs) don't have time for research.

We will work with players to figure out why something would be behaving improperly, but don't sit there and harp on us for things not working to your expectation and do nothing to assist us in figuring the problem out.

I'm not at raid level yet so I can't exactly tell you the precise cause of the bug, but the evidence I showed you overwhelmingly suggests that there is a problem with naggy that is allowing players/pets to avoid getting hit by his ae's. At this point the onus was on either you or another dev to work out the details of this bug, or on someone from Nihilum to man up and admit that there is a glaring problem with the encounter. The onus isn't on me because I'm in no position to test this - I'm not a dev and I'm not in Nihilum because I declined their offer to join (sorry :p). Instead of straw-manning everything I've said, you could have just asked Lovely or someone else from Nihilum if these encounters were working correctly. This is a community project and when a guild has killed Naggy twice so far without reporting an obvious exploit with the encounter-when there's considerable evidence that they were aware of such an exploit-that hurts the project. So, rather than attacking me for trying to report a very serious bug and improve the project (read: NOT trying to get a competing guild punished), you can direct your ire towards the guild that knew about an exploit, abused it twice, and didn't report it despite clearly having the time to report bugs concerning the encounter (for evidence of this, see this very thread where Reiker and others try to make the encounter even easier for them). To suggest that I'm one of the players who sat on their ass during beta and didn't report bugs is absolutely laughable. In my time on this server I've made 99 bug threads and several threads reporting exploits in the petitions/exploits forum, including a thread reporting the exploit in question, with as much detail as I could possibly provide in the position that I'm in. In addition to this I've done research for numerous other bug reports where the poster was too lazy to provide the research for themselves.

And maybe Lovely is telling the truth and didn't know the encounter was bugged, who knows. Of course I find it unlikely that not a single person in his guild knew that there was a bug, since it seems like it would take a great deal of effort to position four pets just so that they don't take the ae's (plus telling your bard to not bother playing resist songs with a drum is itself suspicious), but I'm not looking to get anyone punished. All I'm asking is that the exploit get fixed. The only way I could provide you more details on this would be to join Nihilum, and while I've put a lot of effort into helping this project, I'm not willing to sell my soul for it. Sorry.

PS: Lovely, I still think you're the greatest, try not to take any of this the wrong way.
PPS: that goes for Rogean too. Sorry if I'm being rude.

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by donttazecast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We've been telling you since a month before BETA about shit like recharging

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Originally Posted by donttazecast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you do realize people are running around spamming instaclick 50dmg root (wooly spider silk nets) that have 3 charges and are rechargable right?

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Originally Posted by donttazecast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How long have you all known about shit like ice comet

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Originally Posted by donttazecast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

experience group bug, which was reported by Lovely at L45+.

Already fixed and live...

Originally Posted by donttazecast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you ever check the logs to see if Troriste and Lovely grouped eachother

We don't have logs showing when and where you are and who you are grouped with every second of the day.

Originally Posted by donttazecast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You set the precedent on everything and sent the clear message that you don't care what people are doing on your server.

That's fine if you want to believe that, but don't come bitching to me about what soandso got away with when you get banned for exploiting something.

Originally Posted by donttazecast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why were tradeskills changed to cap to 200, and enhance AC in PVP when melees already hit for shit + can't stop casters from channeling... hello, anyone home?

If you read the changelog you'll see that.. I'm not the one that was involved with that change. What a thought. Maybe you should PM the Developer that was? Instead of trying to use it against me you could actually be posting constructive details and facts against why it shouldn't have happened, backing it up by classic examples. I've posted this repeatedly before, but no, that concept is too hard for you.

So in summary, your post had absolutely nothing to do with me or my focus of development. Good job on an absolutely failtastic reply!

[Uthgaard]

Tradeskills couldn't go past 200 in classic. If you want to complain about that, jewelcrafting could be completely reverted to its old nearly useless state so that going past 200 is unncessary, and all modern jewelcrafted items could be removed.

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Careful what you wish for.

[Nirgon]

I think there's something else wrong with Naggy. Maybe you can elaborate a little more. Also, pets able to easily hit/cast successfully on things that con red to them ... hm.

[Jadian]

So basically unless everyone and every pet stands directly in the way of the AE every time Naggy casts it, it's exploiting.


No wonder nobody else is killing anything worth a damn.

[Rais]

I think it's the fact that lvl 30 pets are fully resisting AOE spells from a lvl 55 dragon for 13+ mins. I'm just guessing that this maybe the issue, I haven't figured it out yet.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Rais [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it's the fact that lvl 30 pets are fully resisting AOE spells from a lvl 55 dragon for 13+ mins. I'm just guessing that this maybe the issue, I haven't figured it out yet.

I tested aes vs. pets and charmed pets trying to create an exploit. I didn't succeed in finding anything wrong with the AEs.

Also, with the latest patch, npcs should act more appropriately when being hit through a wall, so I'm not sure it was wall blocking either.

Any other ideas?

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can we delete the recharging trolling bs posts (nuke this one as well) and just keep this bug thread on topic pls.

Yes we can.