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Old 12-13-2011, 01:43 PM
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i remember when the number 1 topic on the forums was "im sick of poopsocking trak" and no resolution was made. now VP is out, which solved just about nothing, and people have moved on to "lets just wipe this shit". it doesnt matter how many times you wipe it, as long as content is taking 3x longer than live to release people are going to get bored and loose interest.
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Old 12-13-2011, 01:51 PM
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I'm a bored geared lev 60 and I support a reset as well. I don't think it will happen though. (in fact if I remember right Rogean even said something about there never being a wipe).

But personally, I would go for it in a heartbeat. I hardly login anymore but would on a fresh server. They've certainly put in a lot of work that could be implemented the right way from the beginning this time...along with all the work needed for us to follow a true timeline for quite a while.

When we got back to around where we are now, they'd probably have Velious ready too.
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Old 12-13-2011, 01:56 PM
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I'm a bored geared lev 60 and I support a reset as well. I don't think it will happen though. (in fact if I remember right Rogean even said something about there never being a wipe).

But personally, I would go for it in a heartbeat. I hardly login anymore but would on a fresh server. They've certainly put in a lot of work that could be implemented the right way from the beginning this time...along with all the work needed for us to follow a true timeline for quite a while.

When we got back to around where we are now, they'd probably have Velious ready too.
That was my point on proposing a reset. By the time we get to the end of Kunark they should have Velious pretty much finished. Also they have ironed out all the bugs now so it should be a much better leveling experience. EQ classic is one of those games where the journey is a thousand times better then the destination. People may be scared to lose 1337 items but the enjoyment of everyone being on an equal playing field again will re invigorate this community. I hope the devs are considering this, or thinking about it at least.
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Old 12-13-2011, 02:10 PM
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I would vote for a wipe.
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Old 12-13-2011, 02:22 PM
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Old 12-13-2011, 02:32 PM
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It's a shame that powergamers have ruined your server, but would a wipe really help? Seems to me the people affected the least would be the same people that ruined it the first time around.. maybe you'd get another fun 3-6 months in the game, but then it'd be back to what it was anyway [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 12-13-2011, 02:39 PM
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It's a shame that powergamers have ruined your server, but would a wipe really help? Seems to me the people affected the least would be the same people that ruined it the first time around.. maybe you'd get another fun 3-6 months in the game, but then it'd be back to what it was anyway [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Powergamers haven't ruined the server. If you want to do stuff, it isn't as though the guilds are exclusive and you won't get admitted....you can join them and there's several to choose from that can all do the content.



The point is that the game has gotten dull due to doing the same thing repeatedly, or not bothering at all. In fact it is mostly a flaw within the design of the game itself, not the server.

The idea is that a wipe would help out new players that are having problems finding groups (and there's more than a few of them) and the old players that are just bored with what we have.

Bonus being that we could follow the timeline this time, since so much work is done, so that people wouldn't be sitting around bored doing the same things for too long.

Someone earlier in the thread mentioned the journey being more fun than the destination, and they are right it applies even moreso to EQ than most MMOs. When you get down to EQs endgame, it really isn't much different from WoW. Once you've gotten all buyable stuff and probably amassed lots of cash...all there is to do is wait for the next raid. It's even worse here, since in EQ atm most of the "raiding" is dropping a single target, where you spend 90% of the time just waiting around for people to get there before dropping the mob in less than a minute.
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Old 12-13-2011, 02:44 PM
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Hm well. Why not try out the pvp server? It seems to be what you're looking for, really..
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Old 12-13-2011, 02:54 PM
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Powergamers have ruined it to some extent, but they aren't totally to blame. In our day and age a fresh version of EQ has a good life expectancy of about 6 months. Everyone knows all the secrets and all the ways to completely optimize performance such that the economy gets inflated so fast. New people aren't going to want to play on an insanely inflated server.

The other reason the game is ruined is because there is absolutely nothing to do end game. The raids are not challenging so raid content alone isn't enough to keep competitive interest high, plus you are working towards a pointless cyclic goal whose only objective is to gain better gear. Once you have better gear you try to obtain better gear, but once you have the best gear you ?

I don't think there is anything that can be done to maintain an EQ server because its impossible to recreate the lack of knowledge we had back in the day. Really the only thing we can do is keep recycling the server over and over every year or so imo. The grind is the game, building a character is the game. People who qq about losing what they have worked for are living in some dreamland where its possible to have a lasting persistent server. All mmos degrade at some point, and with how good we all are, this one degrades perty gd fast.
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Old 12-13-2011, 02:55 PM
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Hm well. Why not try out the pvp server? It seems to be what you're looking for, really..
Considered it, but don't really care for the concept of other people being my enemy...not in mmorpgs anyway. I like being able to just roam around alone, poke around in areas..."any room in the group for me?", that sort of thing.

I don't want to kill someone or their group and take their camp. I don't want others doing it to me either. I'd rather be friendly with everyone. Other people playing emulated EQ aren't my enemy. This is one case where I like the "new" way of pvp in mmos via instanced battlegrounds of some sort. I can enjoy pvp in mmos as a contest, not as an act of malice.

I did actually try out the pvp server anyway when it was new. Never even made it to the points I was mentioning above, the community was enough to make me leave. I don't want to seek out a guild that's not a bunch of asses either, so I can avoid the majority of people. If I have to avoid the majority of people playing there, there's no real reason for me to play there.
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