Sell me on ranger

[Diggles]

Originally Posted by Vondra [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Might be fun for the ranger, isn't fun for the rest of the group.

Here's something to consider: If it was fun for the group to have a ranger and not perform as well, people would invite them often.

Here's something else to consider: People who don't have fun on their character probably aren't going to be very efficient or caring. I'll take a ranger that has fun over an enchanter who wants to commit suicide and does nothing

[Vondra]

Originally Posted by Diggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's something else to consider: People who don't have fun on their character probably aren't going to be very efficient or caring. I'll take a ranger that has fun over an enchanter who wants to commit suicide and does nothing

So would I. I'd take anyone over someone that's not at least reasonably efficient. That's outside the scope of rangers though and isn't really a defense of the class.

On a neutral level, there isn't extra fun added to the group by putting a ranger in. Can you play and have fun with a ranger in the group? Naturally. If your buddy is a ranger and you like grouping with him, by all means bring him along.

Presumably though, you can have fun playing with all sorts of different people, such as all your non ranger friends as well. Thus when there's a few people around that a person is neutral on (the players themselves, not the class), there's no real incentive to take a ranger.

It isn't as though all rangers instantly make great social groupmates you love having around, while all the people that get invited instead are the scum of the earth that you can't stand but are grouping with to get slightly more exp.

It's a design flaw by the creators, they should have given rangers more. But they didn't.

[YendorLootmonkey]

If you want to play it safe, wait until Velious to start a ranger... particularly after the patch where they get Panic Animal at level 22. Then, if you can't get a group, you can go wherever and fear/snare/melee animals solo and it's not so bad.

At 60, weaponshield disc can be a raid-saver, and some tank transition strats might heavily rely on it for solid aggro to give time for CH rotations to start landing on the MT without immediately getting clerics wiped, but other than that... it's a fun class to play due to versatility that isn't necessarily appreciated by a group just looking to min-max.

[Awwalike]

wasn't weaponshield wayyyyyyy later? thought rangers here would never see it.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Awwalike [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wasn't weaponshield wayyyyyyy later? thought rangers here would never see it.

Hybrids get disciplines in Velious.

[Rusl]

nope, we get it and trueshot plus a few other random bs discs in velious

[Awwalike]

that's what's up!

[Pringles]

Rangers get the most convincing Feign Death, reason enough to roll one.

[Diggles]

So convincing the server is fooled and sends them to bind!

[Rusl]

Here's a how to video on raiding as a Ranger. Highlight around the 1:40 mark.

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also straight from the TR manual on how to maximize your potential as a Ranger
Step 1. Take DT
Step 2. Consent & ask for res
Step 3. ...
Step 4. Go back to Step 1

at least until Velious then maybe Perun will appreciate me...