Remember how people referred to VZTZ as "caster's paradise"?

[Nuk3Afr1ca]

Originally Posted by Mrcurtloco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

melee was the best ive ever seen on a emu that was geard for "classic pvp"

hit box: huge

miss rate: didnt happen

bash/kick stun always hit

to say "casters paradise" was vztz isnt even close

You do realize you're listing things you say made melee "not bad" as things that won't even be on this server? lol

Caster damage is also higher than VZTZ and the same CC spam is still there.

[Dfn]

Having played a Wizard, Necro, Monk (daefuin), and Rogue (Whyte) across most variations of the VZTZ box, I can confirm that it was indeed NOT a caster's paradise. Melee's did absolutely retarded damage with non-existant miss rates.

The only time casters were ever on top was early boxes in classic - and even then it was shortlived. During all the kunark and velioua boxes melee dominance was completely out of hand - even in outdoor zones. Sure, casters could hit and run some - but group fights and even small skirmishes were decided by geared melee. Ever get 1 rounded by a warrior?

Please stop posting.

[Nuk3Afr1ca]

Originally Posted by Dfn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Having played a Wizard, Necro, Monk, and Rogue across most variations of the VZTZ box, I can confirm that it was indeed NOT a caster's paradise. Melee's did absolutely retarded damage with non-existant miss rates.

The only time casters were ever on top was early boxes in classic - and even then it was shortlived. During all the kunark and velioua boxes melee dominance was completely out of hand - even in outdoor zones.

Please stop posting.

Nobody here is talking about Kunark and Velious. VZTZ was a poorly put together server where rogues double backstabbed for 1000 damage EVERY round during Kunark.

If you're new to the server and weren't a high end PvP figure pre-kunark on VZTZ, you should not be posting here. The server was completely different in other eras. It had different people working on it then too.

[Dfn]

Originally Posted by Nuk3Afr1ca [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody here is talking about Kunark and Velious. VZTZ was a poorly put together server where rogues double backstabbed for 1000 damage EVERY round during Kunark.

If you're new to the server and weren't a high end PvP figure pre-kunark on VZTZ, you should not be posting here. The server was completely different in other eras. It had different people working on it then too.

You were a nobody on VZTZ. I played on most incarnations of the box, and if you feel the need to check hop over to the vztz forums (if they're still up) and see my Oct. 2007 registration.

And considering the server used the same address, the same name, and had much of the same staff - then it would be appropriate to indicate the era of the server instead of saying "VZTZ" and claiming one short time period as how the server was operated through its entirety.

[Lasher]

Casters raped in 1v1-3v3, bigger battles was decided by melee even in classic. 2.0 fisnbait was mostly casters that had success at first but lost in the long run. Remember FB failing on vox 3 times uncontested because they had no bashers

[Truth]

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[Mrcurtloco]

Originally Posted by Truth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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from 4.0 classic? mage time frame?

[Nuk3Afr1ca]

Told you this Booglie guy was smoking crack. The only pure melee that even made the list were perma grouped 24/7 with healer servants like Lasher following them around. They never soloed. Most of their kills were from 30vs30 guild fights or attacking perma-immobilized targets 6vs1 too. It was caster's paradise.

As a side note, there's another snapshot of leaderboard where I'm beating Knuckle and in 7th place or so, so this leaderboard list sucks.

[Booglie]

i suppose it doesnt matter how often and explicitly i lay it out, but what you're refering to is a small portion of the garage boxes life, and i have no idea what that leader board is based on. was it points based on group based kills? must have been with the clerics on the list. until epics came out, there were virtually no mages on the box... and with the epic pet that could run at selos speed after a target while the mages ran in the opposite direction, mages pwned with those server mechanics. the pet used the same melee mechanics as the rest of the server, which made it some what like a live warrior on steroids with npc ability to follow you around...

[Darwoth]

the more i hear about vztz the more glad i am i never wasted time on it, selo mage pets, warriors hitting for 1800, rangers shooting arrows for 400+, rogues double backstabbing for 1k and on and on.

probably the most retarded shitheap i have ever heard of, no wonder there are so many dumbshits from that server making stupid suggestions.