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Old 11-09-2011, 02:31 PM
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My vote is for giving ogres and dwarves an extra 50% exp penalty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 11-09-2011, 03:15 PM
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Thoughts on Hybrid Penalty by ability and power.

SK-HT is powerful, and they get pretty strong late game.
Keep Penalty ^

Paladin-LOH, Group healing and on pretty much on Par with SK.
Keep Penalty ^

Bard-Best PVP class, can literally do everything except solo dungeon bosses. Actually
has an option not to die. Wrist might hurt for some.
Raise Penalty ^

Ranger-Has track, loses DPS if casting weak nukes and has poor heals. Bow is a joke. Can be OP with Mistwalker and Sky gear.
Lower Penalty ^

In the end, my ideas aren't "classic" and just my humble opinion.
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Old 11-09-2011, 04:00 PM
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Thoughts on Hybrid Penalty by ability and power.

SK-HT is powerful, and they get pretty strong late game.
Keep Penalty ^

Paladin-LOH, Group healing and on pretty much on Par with SK.
Keep Penalty ^

Bard-Best PVP class, can literally do everything except solo dungeon bosses. Actually
has an option not to die. Wrist might hurt for some.
Raise Penalty ^

Ranger-Has track, loses DPS if casting weak nukes and has poor heals. Bow is a joke. Can be OP with Mistwalker and Sky gear.
Lower Penalty ^

In the end, my ideas aren't "classic" and just my humble opinion.
HT and LOH is nice but certainly not a reason to keep the penalty

rangers suck overal so there is no need for a penalty there

bard, yes, bards are OP, especialy in pvp but then again, mages and necros are op too

penalties have been one of verants worst decisions back the day
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:03 PM
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HT and LOH is nice but certainly not a reason to keep the penalty

rangers suck overal so there is no need for a penalty there

bard, yes, bards are OP, especialy in pvp but then again, mages and necros are op too

penalties have been one of verants worst decisions back the day
Ill be glad to take the penalty on my monk and wizard for a LOH or HT abilitiy, Id even take a 100% reduction without complains.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:04 PM
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casters get 10% xp penalty


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Old 11-09-2011, 05:47 PM
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Ill be glad to take the penalty on my monk and wizard for a LOH or HT abilitiy, Id even take a 100% reduction without complains.
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Old 11-09-2011, 05:50 PM
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Bards are OP?


Not in the slightest, certainly not in old world. They kill slower than Clerics and won't scratch anyone with 80+ resists. They are one of the weakest classes for indoors pvp. I never died to Bards on live, even the geared ones in PDM. I could run all the way across Dreadlands before they had my HPs in any real danger with their annoying DoT chants.

Bottom line: the game was never really balanced around these penalties. A paladin sure as shit isn't leveling 30% faster than a Monk or Necro or Druid. 30% slower maybe, and with no exp penalty.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:08 PM
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Bards are OP?


Not in the slightest, certainly not in old world. They kill slower than Clerics and won't scratch anyone with 80+ resists. They are one of the weakest classes for indoors pvp. I never died to Bards on live, even the geared ones in PDM. I could run all the way across Dreadlands before they had my HPs in any real danger with their annoying DoT chants.

Bottom line: the game was never really balanced around these penalties. A paladin sure as shit isn't leveling 30% faster than a Monk or Necro or Druid. 30% slower maybe, and with no exp penalty.
obviously u havent playd on beta because legit bards are easily landing mez (on 120+ MR) and their fire n ice dots do pretty dam good damage/ and almost never resisted - this with being lvl 50 with gear n shit

the Hit n Run bard is ownin purty much everyone right now/ dot and range jousting ftw im seein bards easily handle 1v2 1v3 situations without breakin a sweat


indoors yea u can kill em
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:42 PM
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obviously u havent playd on beta because legit bards are easily landing mez (on 120+ MR) and their fire n ice dots do pretty dam good damage/ and almost never resisted - this with being lvl 50 with gear n shit

the Hit n Run bard is ownin purty much everyone right now/ dot and range jousting ftw im seein bards easily handle 1v2 1v3 situations without breakin a sweat


indoors yea u can kill em
No I haven't. I'm basing this off EQlive which this is supposed to be emulating.

On live that mez shit NEVER landed. They would have to try to land the -MR chant to even have a shot at it getting through.
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Old 11-10-2011, 12:44 AM
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obviously u havent playd on beta because legit bards are easily landing mez (on 120+ MR) and their fire n ice dots do pretty dam good damage/ and almost never resisted - this with being lvl 50 with gear n shit

the Hit n Run bard is ownin purty much everyone right now/ dot and range jousting ftw im seein bards easily handle 1v2 1v3 situations without breakin a sweat


indoors yea u can kill em
I'm sorry, but you are full of shit. What is your bards name in beta? Come and try to own our group in ec 1v3 or any group for that matter and post your screenshot. You can find people sitting at the ec/fp line 24/7 looking for pvp.

Try to do it 1v1 even vs a rooting/stunning class.

Doubt you even played a bard in this iteration.
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